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Elders Beat children at mosque

#1
To me this is hypocracy of the highest order. Today's Torygraph:

Police and child protection officials have launched an investigation into allegations of child abuse at two mosques in the West Midlands. Around 40 schoolchildren are to be interviewed over claims that they have been subjected to violence and punishment by elders at the mosques, which are on adjoining roads.

The investigation was sparked last month when the mother of an eight-year-old boy complained to the police that a mullah [teacher] had slapped her son on the back and made him lie face down before putting his right foot on the boy's back, leaving him with chest pains for more than 24 hours.

As word spread that an official complaint had been made, more children from the area came forward to report beatings and abuse which, the youths say, include being hit, slapped and even beaten with a hockey stick.
As the number of allegations grew, officers from West Midlands police called in the NSPCC to help deal with child protection and other welfare issues.

Police have been forced to tread lightly as elders and mullahs at mosques are among the most respected and influential people in the community. Relations with the Muslim community in the area are fragile and police officers are aware of the difficulty they face getting evidence as often local people are reluctant to talk.

A source close to the inquiry said: "There is a cultural problem to deal with." People here are very concerned about doing anything that will bring disgrace on their community or the mosques, and are often ostracised if they speak out. Some parents find it acceptable for the mullahs to chastise children physically, while others who don't are too fearful to speak out. "Community leaders close ranks and are not slow to claim persecution or racism by the authorities. "They have a great deal of control over children and adults, especially the men. "But it is the duty of the police to act if there are allegations that children are being routinely beaten."

The majority of Muslim children attend the mosques for two hours every day after school to learn about the Koran.

After the eight-year-old boy's mother complained - an allegation that has since been withdrawn - word spread quickly.

The source said: "They started coming out of the woodwork. "From what we can gather it appears that it has been going on for a long time but until now no one has made an official complaint."

Police are expected to begin interviewing the children next Tuesday, following the end of the holy festival of Ramadan, which they were keen not to interrupt. They declined to comment officially but sources said arrests were "imminent".

A spokesman for the NSPCC said that it would not comment on an ongoing investigation.
methinks had this been a "christian" school, the police or NSPCC would not have been so slow or worried to act!
 
#3
Police have been forced to tread lightly
Yet more discrimination in favour of intolerant muslim practices, but then Blair needs the vote of these intolerant anti christian anti west passive supporters of muslim aggression.
 
#4
armourer said:
Police have been forced to tread lightly
Yet more discrimination in favour of intolerant muslim practices, but then Blair needs the vote of these intolerant anti christian anti west passive supporters of muslim aggression.
have to agree with you there Armourer
 
#5
The press/govt here are the same ones who want to ban loving parents from occasionally smacking their children, but are pussy-footing around serious child abuse because it's committed by members of a "protected" religion. :roll: :? :x
 
#8
Had a similar event up in Yorkshire a couple of years ago.
My manager at the time, a Muslim community leader was of the opinion that it was impossible for the Imam to have acted incorrectly because he was "a holy man" and therefore the allegations must have been false.

The Imam received 18 months.
 
#11
Firehorse i like these better.......

Christianity
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you.

Islam
No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
perhaps that lesson was skipped in the mosques most days.......

Beebs :?
 
#12
Though part of me think Blind could do worse than get local immans to run Youth justice :evil:
Just to see the look on the face of track suited chavs when a bin laden look alike imposes a public whipping and he's dragged off to a stake
in a word priceless :twisted: :lol:
 
#13
Filbert Fox said:
shortfuse said:
Oh sorry , ithought it said "beat children at RISK
I used to be a dab hand at Risk, but I bet some of the kids of today would give me a wupping, especially if its out on playsation 2 or X-box
Am not bad at risk always go for south america is my motto and never fight a war in Asia it just to big.
 
#14
Greengrass said:
Filbert Fox said:
shortfuse said:
Oh sorry , ithought it said "beat children at RISK
I used to be a dab hand at Risk, but I bet some of the kids of today would give me a wupping, especially if its out on playsation 2 or X-box
Am not bad at risk always go for south america is my motto and never fight a war in Asia it just to big.
I'm cr*p at Risk,
but a dap hand at beating children.
Other people's, of course.

Beebs :twisted:
 
#15
Why settle for youth justice Brighton hippy?

Bang them somewhere where they can carry out there sadomasacistic tendancies to the full. High court Judges and Prison Govenor sound like a good starting place to me. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
#16
blessed baby cakes said:
Greengrass said:
Filbert Fox said:
shortfuse said:
Oh sorry , ithought it said "beat children at RISK
I used to be a dab hand at Risk, but I bet some of the kids of today would give me a wupping, especially if its out on playsation 2 or X-box
Am not bad at risk always go for south america is my motto and never fight a war in Asia it just to big.
I'm cr*p at Risk,
but a dap hand at beating children.
Other people's, of course.

Beebs :twisted:
Got a mate from S/Africa who always goes and fights whoever is being the black pieces in Risk. Our Mutual Black S/African friend thought it was funny as feck.

'Give an inch and theyll take a feckin mile' The police and NSPCC should of gone in and sorted it, and then when it hit the headlines, let the public decide. More than anything else in the UK, the british citizen is very outspoken and enraged by child abuse regardless of religious and/or colour background.
 

Cutaway

LE
Kit Reviewer
#17
SKJOLD said:
......

Got a mate from S/Africa who always goes and fights whoever is being the black pieces in Risk. Our Mutual Black S/African friend thought it was funny as feck.
Aye, there are some funny buggers about.

Eugene TerreBlanche, the AWB lunatic, wouldn't allow Black Label in the house !
 
#18
Inconvenient facts for our Beloved Leaders:

http://www.sharia.dk/Skribenter/hedegaard/rotten_denmark.html

Something Rotten in Denmark?[1]
Daniel Pipes & Lars Hedegaard

A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago that a 30,000 dollar bounty would be paid for the murder of several prominent Danish Jews,[2] a threat that garnered wide international notice.[3] Less well known is that this is just one problem associated with Denmark's approximately 200,000 Muslim immigrants. The key issue is that many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and insisted they had no problem with the Muslim customs - until one day they found that they did. Some major issues:

Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.[4]
Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5,4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists,[5] an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.[6]
Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.[7]
Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.
Another threat is to kill Muslims who convert out of Islam: One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who went public to explain why she had changed religion, felt the need to hide her face and conceal her identity, fearing for her life.[8]
Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence threatens Denmark's approximately 6,000 Jews, who increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish parents were told by one school principal that she could not guarantee their children's safety and were advised to attend another institution.[9] Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews É wherever you find them."[10]
Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough[11] - a not-that remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.[12]
Other Europeans (such as the late Pim Fortuyn in Holland) have also grown alarmed about these issues, but Danes were the first to make them the basis for a change in government.

In a momentous election last November, a center-right coalition came to power that - for the first time since 1929 - excluded the socialists. The right broke its 72-year losing streak and won a solid parliamentary majority by promising top handle immigration issues, the electorate's first concern, differently from the socialists.[13]

The next nine months did witness some fine-tuning of procedures: Immigrants now must live seven years in Denmark (rather than three) to become permanent residents. Most non-refugees no longer can collect welfare checks immediately on entering the country. No one can bring into the country an intended spouse under the age of 24. And the state prosecutor is considering a ban on Hizb-ut-Tahrir for its death threats against Jews.

These minor adjustments prompted howls internationally - with European and U.N. reports condemning Denmark for racism and "Islamophobia,"[14] the Washington Post reporting that Muslim immigrants "face habitual discrimination,"[15] and a London Guardian headline announcing that "Copenhagen flirts with Fascism."[16]

In reality, however, the new government barely addressed the existing problems. Nor did it prevent new ones, such as the death threats against Jews or a recent Islamic edict calling on Muslims to drive Danes out of Noerrebro quarter of Copenhagen.[17]

The authorities remain indulgent. The military mulls permitting Muslim soldiers in Denmark's volunteer International Brigade to opt out of actions they don't agree with[18] - a privilege granted to members of no other faith. Mohammed Omar Bakri, the self-proclaimed London-based "eyes, ears and mouth" of Osama bin Laden,[19] won permission to set up a branch of his organization, Al-Muhajiroun.[20]

Contrary to media reports, the real news from Denmark is not flirting with fascism but getting mired in inertia. A government elected specifically to deal with a set of problems has made minimal headway. Its reluctance has potentially profound implications for the West as a whole.

Daniel Pipes (www.DanielPipes.org) is author of "Militant Islam Reaches America" (W.W. Norton). Lars Hedegaard is a regular contributor to two Copenhagen newspapers, Berlingske Tidende and Weekendavisen.
 

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