ELCs

#2
Not heard of problems for PQOs before-I suggest you speak to the IERO or the IERO Clerk at your local Education Centre. They should be able to check with the ELC company-you may have been registered anyway. They will also advise whether you can retrospectively register. The lower tier kicks in after 4 years so you may still get something.
 
#3
cunning_stunt said:
I did my PQO Cse in Oct 2006, whilst discussing further education with a regular officer friend of mine, she said that on th "proper" commissioning course, they were all told to register for ELCs, therefore getting in within the first 12months of service.

This was last month so clearly I'm not within my first 12months but I am a little miffed that I have missed out on this window because I was unaware it existed. My Corps response is, "you're an officer, you should be able to find these things out for yourself" which isn't enormously helpful as if I didn't know ELCs existed, how could I find out the rules and regs?

I understand my next window is 8-8.5yrs service but in the mean time, being on a SSC, I'm unable to apply for any postgrad qualifications by competition and I'm also unable to get any financial assistance for any I may do off my own back because I wasn't (and neither were my peers) made aware of this registration.

Just wondered if it is something generally made known to PQOs, ORs and everyone else?
This is nothing to do with being an officer, you could have and should have enrolled at least 7 years ago, if not longer before that.

Google is your friend:

elcas website
 
#4
barbs said:
cunning_stunt said:
I did my PQO Cse in Oct 2006, whilst discussing further education with a regular officer friend of mine, she said that on th "proper" commissioning course, they were all told to register for ELCs, therefore getting in within the first 12months of service.

This was last month so clearly I'm not within my first 12months but I am a little miffed that I have missed out on this window because I was unaware it existed. My Corps response is, "you're an officer, you should be able to find these things out for yourself" which isn't enormously helpful as if I didn't know ELCs existed, how could I find out the rules and regs?

I understand my next window is 8-8.5yrs service but in the mean time, being on a SSC, I'm unable to apply for any postgrad qualifications by competition and I'm also unable to get any financial assistance for any I may do off my own back because I wasn't (and neither were my peers) made aware of this registration.

Just wondered if it is something generally made known to PQOs, ORs and everyone else?
This is nothing to do with being an officer, you could have and should have enrolled at least 7 years ago, if not longer before that.

Google is your friend:

elcas website
:?
 
#5
devexwarrior said:
barbs said:
cunning_stunt said:
I did my PQO Cse in Oct 2006, whilst discussing further education with a regular officer friend of mine, she said that on th "proper" commissioning course, they were all told to register for ELCs, therefore getting in within the first 12months of service.

This was last month so clearly I'm not within my first 12months but I am a little miffed that I have missed out on this window because I was unaware it existed. My Corps response is, "you're an officer, you should be able to find these things out for yourself" which isn't enormously helpful as if I didn't know ELCs existed, how could I find out the rules and regs?

I understand my next window is 8-8.5yrs service but in the mean time, being on a SSC, I'm unable to apply for any postgrad qualifications by competition and I'm also unable to get any financial assistance for any I may do off my own back because I wasn't (and neither were my peers) made aware of this registration.

Just wondered if it is something generally made known to PQOs, ORs and everyone else?
This is nothing to do with being an officer, you could have and should have enrolled at least 7 years ago, if not longer before that.

Google is your friend:

elcas website
:?

AAAAAAAAAAAARGGH. Sorry, read LE for PQO. I am an [expletive deleted]
 
#6
I seem to remember everyone being herded in to the training wing and made to sign up for ELC. There were posters everywhere, notes on payslips and and notices in POOs.

See if u can come up with a good excuse for missing 2003 then see your IERO!
 
#8
The contact numbers on the ELC website appear to be out of order. I have emailed them but not confident of getting a reply.

Now the ballache of trying to contact my education centre when I am on loan 80miles away to a unit without an education centre. Rock n roll.
 
#9
Ask your current unit SPS Det Comd or RAO. One of them will be designated unit resettlement officer and should have the IEROs phone number to hand.
 
#10
Sorry cunning_stunt. I thought you got a LE commission in 2006. I don't know what a PQO is!

If you really did not enlist until 2006, you should have been briefed on ELC during initial training and made the decision whether or not to sign for ELC then. So your excuse is a good one - "Nobody told me!"

Write a letter to that effect to your IERO, enclose the ELCAS application form, proof of enlistment date and a letter of support from a Capt or above. The IERO may then decide to forward these docs thro the C2 for a decision.
 
#11
Thanks codger (PQO=Professionally Qualified Officer, Drs, Lawyers, Padres etc). I enlisted on 2nd August 2006 with a bit of seniority, I was immediately "sent out to work" as I was fully qualified, so I missed out on a lot of briefings that the newly qualified entrants had. We didn't cover this at Keogh (what did we cover... not a lot) and certainly not on our Vicars and Tarts course at Sandhurst.

I will speak to the RAO.
 
#12
It is about time this WAS covered in ALL first weeks of training (I appreciate on the Vicars and Tarts course, this would be in the first half of your training :D ) and again at the end, with signing for done at somepoint between.

Infact, would it not be an idea to make this a MATT? It could go in with the other lectures.... with resettlement knowledge and a bit of info on pensions.
 
#13
I don't understand why you have to opt in anyway. Surely nobody in their right mind who was aware of the scheme would decide against registering.
"up to £6000 free spends to obtain further qualifications,........no thanks I'll pass.."
Who would do that? It should be signed straight after your 1157.
 
#14
r0ckyr0bin said:
I don't understand why you have to opt in anyway. Surely nobody in their right mind who was aware of the scheme would decide against registering.
"up to £6000 free spends to obtain further qualifications,........no thanks I'll pass.."
Who would do that? It should be signed straight after your 1157.
I know of people who have passed on it........
 
#15
I have a question.

Am looking into a University degree using my ELC. Course is three years with the first two years costing £1000 each year and £250 in the final year.
Now ELC are 3 lots of £2000 a year. If I dont use £2000 in ful,l I lose the remainder?
My question is, could I use one years ELC to pay for two years fees or will I just lose 2000 quid?
 
#16
MSI64 said:
I have a question.

Am looking into a University degree using my ELC. Course is three years with the first two years costing £1000 each year and £250 in the final year.
Now ELC are 3 lots of £2000 a year. If I dont use £2000 in ful,l I lose the remainder?My question is, could I use one years ELC to pay for two years fees or will I just lose 2000 quid?
That is correct-you have 3 CLAIMS each one to a max of £2K

As for your second question, if the Uni are willing to bill you 2 years at once then it might work. the uni invoices the ELC Company so if they invoice for one big bill then it should go through as one claim. Talk to the IERO at your local Education Centre. they are the SMEs and will know if it can be done. Also check with the Uni as they may have had other Service personnel come through and would be used to this kind of request.

Also for your final year see if they will bill you in two parts either side of april. You would then have 2 SLC claims in different years which might save you a few quid.
 
#17
If you read the ELC DIN carefully, you will see that you can claim for two academic years in one financial year - as long as they are part of the same overall qualification. You are going to complete a degree so no problem.

What does that actually mean?

I started courses for a degree in Sept 2008 which I complete Sept 2010. Submitted one ELC claim prior to first course starting in 2008 - ELC claim note recieved straight away - provider (OU) paid straight away along with my personal contribution. I claimed the full £2000 and still have two claims left.

I have found ELCAS and the OU ELC lady more than helpful on occassions when I needed advice. I even changed a course half way through which was relatively easy.

If you need any more help or advice or hit a brick wall with your IERO, send me a PM.
 
#18
thingamijig said:
If you read the ELC DIN carefully, you will see that you can claim for two academic years in one financial year - as long as they are part of the same overall qualification. You are going to complete a degree so no problem.

What does that actually mean?

I started courses for a degree in Sept 2008 which I complete Sept 2010. Submitted one ELC claim prior to first course starting in 2008 - ELC claim note recieved straight away - provider (OU) paid straight away along with my personal contribution. I claimed the full £2000 and still have two claims left.

I have found ELCAS and the OU ELC lady more than helpful on occassions when I needed advice. I even changed a course half way through which was relatively easy.

If you need any more help or advice or hit a brick wall with your IERO, send me a PM.
Thanks for the advice mate.
 

Similar threads

Latest Threads

Top