Education. "Retired whore says standards were tending to go down in her brothel"

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  1. Remember, if you have a population that cannot read or write properly, is largely innumerate and has never been taught to think clearly and logically, then that population is unlikely to mount a meaningful opposition to you whilst you are in government.

    Hey! Presto! You remain in power for ever!

    Remind yourselves you was 'in charge' of education in the dog days of the last misgovernment: none other than the public school and Oxford educated Balls. Balls a quasi Marxist and 'leveller' if ever there was one.

    "Education, education, education" - one of the great lies from one of the greatest liars!
     
  2. Hence the Labour Movement in the first place.
     
  3. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    Indeed, the perpetuation of Socialism positively requires an uneducated lumpen proletariat. Which is why it is given incentives to out-breed its betters, to live on benefit and breed like rats.
     
  4. Funny the thickest people I've met have been the most "moral" and conservative (least likley to use a knocking shop), the most inteligent have been liberal minded.
     
  5. Which is a deep shame and a betrayal of a core of early Labour beliefs. Education and self improvement were part and parcel of the early 20th Century working class. You lok at the history of any of the pure working class villages built to house coal workers or steel workers and there were dozens of clubs devoted to reading, opera, education and any form of self Improvment. The Workers’ Educational Association grew so large because of the involvement and support of the Trade Unions and the Labour Movement in the 1910's and 20s'.

    You look at the what is laughingly called the Labour party now and it has nothing to do with the working classes and everything to do with the doctrinal **** fantasies of a privileged few.
     
  6. I am from a generation in which Social Mobility was probably at its highest in the past 70 years .

    Regrettably we now live in a society in which the word “Fail “ , in examinations , may soon be removed from the English Dictionary . I have a lot of sympathy with students now because the real value of examination results is how they are perceived in the “ Real World “ of employment . Sadly they would appear to be poorly perceived , not the fault of the students but the system , which must change .


    I studied for my O and A Levels in the 1950’s and 1960’s and can well remember using previous papers to try and determine “ Banker “ type questions which , with subtle variations , may come around for my examination papers . No modular papers , fail one paper and you had to resit all associated with that subject including practical work ( Physics , Chemistry etc . ) and oral test ( Languages ) . There was a real incentive to pass first time . I believe that at that time the O and A Level were perceived to have been really earned and were thus highly rated in the “ Real World “ .

    Later I well remember taking a series of examinations for membership of the Institution of Electrical Engineers when not a single person on my course passed , due to a misinterpretation of the IEE syllabus which was vague to say the least . The IEE set all of the Examination Papers . One of the mathematics questions which I shall never forget was “ Derive from first principles the calculation of Standard Deviation “ . The IEE expected Members to really understand what they were doing and to be able to prove they really understood what they were doing . Exceptionally we were allowed a resit , the only one in my life .

    I have a suspicion that the ever increasing attainments of students over the past ~20 years may not be real and I say again that may be detrimental to the students when they go to seek employment
     
  7. Spelling was not a strong point of Labour education policies obviously. Pot, kettle black methinks.
     
  8. Interesting story in one of the papers a while ago. Married couple move to a new area and enrol their daughter in the local primary school. On visiting the class room, they notice that many of the posters and drawings that the teacher has made feature basic spelling mistakes. The headmaster explains that their daughter's teacher is severely dyslexic but the school governors decided that this was a disability so they could not discriminate. Generations of kids will have their education blighted so that one woman can do a job that she is not physically qualified for.

    They then meet the classroom assistant who will be joining the class next year. She hasn't a GCSE to her name and was working on a till in Woolworths till she got made redundant. Luckily, she managed to find an "access to teaching" course that not only required no entry qualifications but that featured no exams either. The assistant explains that her course was graded purely by continuous assessment and that this suited her very well since, as a committed socialist, she believed that exams are elitist.

    The couple moved their kid to a private school within a week.

    IIRC, OECD reckons that about 15% of UK school leavers are "functionally illiterate". This puts us in the same league as countries like Lesotho and Jamaica. Many others have "sub-primary" levels of literacy and numeracy and cannot manage in the workplace despite having a fistful of GCSEs.

    13 years of a government that viewed state schools as vehicles for social(ist) engineering while sending their own kids to private schools (yes Diane - we're talking about you) has wrecked education in this country. Politicians that encourage state schools to give the kids days off to protest against Trident while their own kids are learning Latin verbs and donning an officer's uniform in the CCF are beneath contempt.
     
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  9. msr

    msr LE

    And Ghana: BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Learning the work ethic in Ghana


    The boys say their experiences in Ghana are completely unlike those they are accustomed to in the UK.

    "In London, if you aren't scared of anything and act like a gangster you're popular. As long as you've got girls, money and your crew, you're fine," says Crispin Antwi, 15, from Camberwell.

    "Over there if you do well people call you a boffin.

    "But in Ghana everyone is given a position in class depending on how well they perform and you don't want to be last because you'll look stupid."
     
  10. IGCSEs need to be implemented across the board.
    Wipe the smile off of the faces of those 'teaching is getting better in state schools' bastards when their 'learners' (Labour vocab guideline) encounter a question that asks them to do more than multiple choice.
     
  11. Multiple Choice Questions ! Tick Box Answers ! ... well the only choices I ever had when I took my O and A Levels were of the form " Answer Q1 , so no choice at all there , and then any 2 from section 2 and then 2 from section 3 " . There then followed a warning that answering more than that in a specific section they would not be marked ... at least that confirmed candidates could read . I well remember being informed that O Levels were to prove the acquisition of the basic knowledge of a subject however A Levels were to demonstrate further knowledge and the application of that knowledge as part of the preparation for University . Log tables were allowed but the flow of proof in mathematical questions had to be demonstrated .
     
  12. Ironically, your post supports the point he was making.
     
  13. Could be interesting? BBC News - What's wrong with our schools?

    As I don´t live in GB I can´t really comment but It looks as though there are some dedicated teachers out there,It´s just weeding out the loony left dinosaurs that insist on dumbing down instead of execellence.To be broadcast on BBC 2 on Monday.