EDM 361 SUPPORTS OUR INJURED SOLDIERS@

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  1. Please would the modorator make this an Announcement

    We need the support of all user of the sites: Thank you in advance...


    EDM361 - Medical Discharge Boards And Armed Forces Personnel


    Proposed by Nick Harvey on 03/12/2009


    That this House recognises the difficulties with the current Medical Discharge system by which three medical boards discuss the injured person's medical treatment and discharge; believes that insufficiently reliable information about benefits and entitlements is available to service personnel prior to discharge, as well as information about the Discharge board process itself, which is often convoluted and conducted in an uninformative manner; notes that the appointments with the boards can often be intimidating; calls for better support from outside agencies such as the Service Personnel and Veterans Agency; and urges the Government to investigate the matter and to transform medical discharge boards so that they become fairer, more transparent and more accessible in terms of advice and guidance throughout the whole process.



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  2. The following link will make locating your MP easy.

    http://www.parliament.uk/mpslordsandoffices/government_and_opposition/hmg.cfm

    Please show your support by sending your MP the following.

    Thank you once again for the sites support.
    Regards

    Hitback


    Dear .........

    Please sign EDM 361 Medical Discharge Boards And Armed Forces Personnel.

    These are the reasons why you should sign.

    Although the Armed Forces have been Tri-Service for some time the MoD still run three separate Medical Discharge Boards for the three Armed Forces. Service personnel go through three Boards but only attend the final one before discharge.

    Having three separate Medical Discharge Boards adds to greater cost to the public purse and confusion for those being discharged.

    Many service personnel have little or no idea of how these Boards work before they arrive at one –this has been the case for decades and urgently needs reform.

    When service personnel arrive at the final Board they have no idea what to say, who sits on the Medical Board, or what powers these Boards have. There is very little general advice or guidance from the MoD or other agency on the process service personnel undergo, their fundamental rights or reliable answers about discharge.

    There is no automatic right for personnel to bring along a nominated colleague or friend or legal adviser so candidates can sometimes make catastrophic decisions about their future lives.

    The degree or percentage of disability service personnel qualify for (important for realising how much compensation they will later receive) is not told to them by the Medical Board but are informed much later. There is no medical plan for injured personnel or any appointments booked with medical staff.

    The Service Personnel and Veterans Agency (SPVA) is not involved at any stage of the Medical Board process and are not permitted to see any information about service personnel going before the Board.

    If the SPVA were allowed information, it would mean the necessary paperwork for a war pension for example will have been completed and information about benefits including Incapacity, Mobility, Carers Allowance, Housing Benefits etc will have been talked through.

    It would mean an exemption certificate for medication (presently not issued until discharge) will have been issued which would allow personnel to get medication they require free of charge and not allow some of them to fall into poverty.

    The SPVA would also be responsible for contacting outside agencies such as Combat Stress or Talking2Minds with the date, time and place of treatment before the service leaver enters civilian life. This is essential for those suffering from Mental Health Issues (PTSD). Combat Stress should be made aware of the service leaver if they have PTSD or any service related mental illness.

    A story in The Times on 15 November 2009 said that 4,916 cases of mental disorder have been identified in British troops who toured Afghanistan and Iraq, while 67 who served in the two war zones had committed suicide since 2003.

    While an injured person is on the SAM List or at Headley Court, they should be encouraged to start pre-release courses including advice on self employment, CV writing, Interview techniques.

    The resettlement into Social Housing requires to be done at least 6 months prior to discharge.

    Finally, there should be recognition of the job spouses and dependants do for those who are discharged – it is them who keep family life together when the front door closes.

    By re-examining its procedures and introducing change to the present Medical Discharge System it would mean that a faster transition to civilian life would be achieved in line with the Ministry of Defence’s paper The Nation’s Commitment to the Armed Forces Community: Consistent and Enduring Support which was presented to Parliament by the Secretary of State for Defence in July 2009.


    Your Respectfully

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  3. Can we get this made an annoucement in this catagory... Thank you.

    Regards

    Nick
     
  4. spike7451

    spike7451 RIP

    Done,
    Sent to Lady Hermon.
     
  5. BiscuitsAB

    BiscuitsAB LE Moderator

    Done e-mail gone to Mr I austin
     
  6. Thanks gang please keep us updated on their response.... We can change the way our injured are treated by standing together:

    Respectfully Yours

    Hitbback
     
  7. spike7451

    spike7451 RIP

  8. Thanks spike7451, can anyone do the twittering stuff. If so please twitter the letter and what we need as support.

    Thanks again all.
     
  9. Theres a story here for the press amoungst you...! Sorry forgot to tell to you, The Royal British Legion is supporting this campaign...

    Hitback
     
  10. Big thanks to Biscuits AB and Spike. Any chance you could PM mates and ask them to send their MP the letter...? :wink:

    Those reading this thread thinking "I will leave this up to another user to do" don't think that, we need all users to make contact with their MP. To copy-Paste and send will take all of 2 minutes... So go on show your support and send the campaign letter.

    Tnks

    Hitback

    Thank you to the BAFF for their support and also the Royal British Legion :D
     
  11. David Cameron's Tories have failed to support this move to improve the medical discharge system. When I met up with Andrew Murrison MP, Tory Defence Team, he said he agreed the that the system was unfair- worked against the injured person and needed addressing.

    If his party feels so supportive towards our troops lets see them sign and press for change to this draconian system.

    Please ask your MP to sign EDM361 - Medical Discharge Boards And Armed Forces Personnel.

    Thanks - Hitback
     
  12. The only name on EDM 361 is Nick Harvey MP Lib Dems. The reason I asked his office not to wait for more names before placing into the House of Commons, is due to the Conservative Party, they were dragging their feet and more than likely would try to water down the EDM by submitting their own. Nick Harvey has taken a brave step forward for our injured troops, so lets show the HofC we stand together serving or not...!

    Check for when your MP adds their name :wink: http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=39921

    Thanks

    Hitback
     
  13. Another option to the synopsis letter. This one may read better for you.... Please keep sending emails to your MP's asking them to sign EDM 361----

    Thanks again to all arrsers and the site for supporting this new campaign.

    Hitback



    Dear ___________________



    Reasons for reform


    Although the Armed Forces have been Tri-Service for some time the MoD still run three separate Medical Discharge Boards for the three Armed Forces. Service personnel go through three Boards but only attend the final one before discharge.


    Having three separate Medical Discharge Boards adds to greater cost to the public purse and confusion for those being discharged.


    Many service personnel have little or no idea of how these Boards work before they arrive at one –this has been the case for decades and urgently needs reform.


    When service personnel arrive at the final Board they have no idea what to say, who sits on the Medical Board, or what powers these Boards have. There is very little general advice or guidance from the MoD or other agency on the process service personnel undergo, their fundamental rights or reliable answers regarding discharge.


    There is no automatic right for personnel to bring along a nominated colleague or friend or legal adviser so candidates can sometimes make catastrophic decisions about their future lives without advocate advise.


    The degree or percentage of disability service personnel qualify for (important for realising how much compensation they will later receive) is not explained to them by the Medical Board. They are informed much later. There is no opportunity to book appointments with medical staff in order to formulate a medical plan for those in urgent need.


    The Service Personnel and Veterans Agency (SPVA) is not involved at any stage of the Medical Board process and are not permitted to see any information about service personnel who go before the Board.


    If the SPVA were allowed information, it would mean the necessary paperwork for a war pension for example will have been completed and information about benefits including Incapacity, Mobility, Carers Allowance, Housing Benefits etc will have been discussed with the serviceman or women.


    It would mean an exemption certificate for medication (presently not issued until discharge) will have been issued. This would allow personnel to access medication they may require free of charge. It would alleviate the intervention of social services for those who's financial circumstances may not be able to meet the needs of prescription charges.


    The SPVA would also be responsible for contacting outside agencies such as Combat Stress or Talking2Minds with the date, time and place of treatment before the service leaver enters civilian life. This is essential for those suffering from Mental Health Issues (PTSD). Combat Stress should also be made aware of the service leaver if they have PTSD or any service related mental illness.


    A story in The Times on 15 November 2009 said that 4,916 cases of mental disorder have been identified in British troops who toured Afghanistan and Iraq, whilst 67 of these who served in the two war zones had also committed suicide since 2003.


    While an injured person is on the SAM List or at Headley Court, they should be encouraged to start pre-release courses including advice on self employment, CV writing and Interview techniques.


    For those requiring it resettlement into Social Housing requires to be carried out at least 6 months prior to discharge.


    Finally, there should be recognition of the support spouses and dependants give for those who are discharged – it is often the spouses who keep family life together when the front door closes.


    By re-examining its procedures and introducing change to the present Medical Discharge System would mean that a faster transition to civilian life would be achieved in line with the Ministry of Defence’s paper The Nation’s Commitment to the Armed Forces Community: Consistent and Enduring Support which was presented to Parliament by the Secretary of State for Defence in July 2009.



    Respectfully yours


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  14. We are hoping that on Monday our Political Masters have a lot of emails asking them to support EDM 361. They want to be elected back into the House of Commons then lets see them support what their constituants find important.

    Thanks to all those that have sent an email. Those haven't yet sent one, please spend 2 minutes cut/paste/send synopsis to your MP... Please look above this thread to locate search engine for your MP and the synopsis.

    Regards

    Hitback
     
  15. I will not alter the original post above but add the following: :!:

    I recieved an email from Andrew Murrison MP (Con). He has stated the following; "I tabled a raft of PQs on this last week" (this is in reply to me sending him a copy of the synopsis).

    I have thanked him for his actions and asked him to sign EDM 361- and to ask his fellow members to do the same. I believe the EDM express the wrongs and how best to put them right...!

    I hope we get cross party support on this campaign and get changes done before any other comrades suffer under this Draconian system

    Regards

    Hitback