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Edinburgh OTC Annual Camp

Mutt

Old-Salt
#3
Irish Cream, causing as much trouble as usual, I see?

Perhaps JoeStrummer will be supporting us, possibly as a medic, so it's best not to be a dick, as you are fairly distinctive, you pikey barsteward.

Joe, we're not entirely sure about the structure of the FTX, nothing's really filtered down from upstairs properly. SillySubbie may know more, or at least he'll claim to.

From what I've figured so far, it looks like 2 nights in the field, as MTQ1 training doesn't seem to support anything more taxing, about a week into the camp. The FTX will be, as ever, easy. Command Positions look to be taken up by those working on their MTQ3 for the whole time, apparently.

I've got a vague timetable for the whole camp back in Edinburgh, but I'm not there until sunday/monday, when I'll try to remeber to update this.
 
#4
hehe

is it still the case that the ftx is separated into 2 parts, essentially making 2 ftx's?
thats the last i heard on the grapevine, however the timetable doesnt reveal much i hear.
 

Mutt

Old-Salt
#5
Yeah, think so, but there's a possibility that one part is an 'equipment day', someone mentioned that this would be sub-unit based. Gunnery!
 
#6
eh?

2 days in the field, in the middle of the camp?

We do about 6 days in the field, 2 'revision' (read bone) days then four on the actual ftx itself - this is the first week of camp.
Is there such a thing as centralisation in the OTC!?
 
#7
Mongoose said:
We do about 6 days in the field, 2 'revision' (read bone) days then four on the actual ftx itself - this is the first week of camp.
Is there such a thing as centralisation in the OTC!?
Its called Commanding Officers

anyway I think Phil the Greek is attending. There will be shedloads of admin to do.
 
#8
The whole Edinburgh situation is just confusing me now.....different camp structure, different overall unit structure next year. I really don't understand what is going on anymore :?
 
#9
Ok hands up who does, or ever did, have any idea what was going on in the mind of the peeps upstairs?
No? Didn't think so.
Random juo appointments before changing the command structure totally? Exactly.
From that chat that I have heard, the ftx is 2 nights at the end of week 1. They've decided that the ftx at the start was silly, and I'm inclined to agree. Phil his dudeness is indeed attending, though probably no.4 coy challenge as opposed to bashering up with us on the ftx.

Mongoose, due to popular demand, please remove the last 4 letters from your name. Last year we had a 5 day ftx at the beginning, this year with his dudeness has probably taken up at least 3 days.
 
#10
BigJobs said:
Ok hands up who does, or ever did, have any idea what was going on in the mind of the peeps upstairs?
No? Didn't think so.
It was all part of the Great Plan (tm).... well, in reality the FTX has always been an attempt at giving the "peeps upstairs" an idea of assessing everyone in a reasonably systematic way, not just the loud ones (and including those who were legends in their own minds).

For instance, the whole "FTX at the start of camp" came about at the Macrihanish camp, where it was a short warm-up - essentially an extended "admin in the field" practical, so that people had a chance to sort themselves out before the "proper" FTX. OK, so it involved Garelochhead, but at least it wasn't "let's tab around Arran for a day or two on a huge round-robin" (CO's plan A, scuppered finally by ferry timings thank f***)

The same person :) got lumbered with the FTX the next year in Ripon, but the timings meant it had to be a) at the start of Camp and b) the only FTX. So we did it again - and turned it into "let's give everyone who's got MTQ2 a chance at commanding something", even if that was only a Recce patrol. The next year at Folkestone, it was getting to be a habit, and the art form was fitting a useful exercise into a postage stamp of a training area...

The disadvantage of the FTX at the start of Camp is that it's a rude shock to everyone's system, a deployment nightmare, and the FTX isn't a "grand finale". The advantage of doing it at the start is that it gets everyone working together, thinking "army not student", and leaves you huge amounts of time to sort out post-exercise admin nausea.

The realistic limit of an OTC FTX is to get people at least thinking about administering themselves in the field, carrying out basic battle procedure, and operating at section level; with really simple platoon stuff at a push. Anyone who suggests "a final Coy attack to finish" is making a brave decision (read: hugely ambitious, I only ever saw it actually work once).
 
#12
Could be amusing- I know he's famous for his un-PC-ness, he'll certainly have friends in the unit if he decides to drop one of those famous comments amongst us!

No 4 Coy challenge should run a lot smoother this year if His Greekness is about.
 
#13
SillySubby said:
Could be amusing- I know he's famous for his un-PC-ness, he'll certainly have friends in the unit if he decides to drop one of those famous comments amongst us!

No 4 Coy challenge should run a lot smoother this year if His Greekness is about.

I'm sure the staff would appreciate feedback on last years challenge to take forward for this years event (even if its sent anonymously)
 
#14
Phil in the field:

"Look at them running around like ........s in a ......."

and

"Who built this tent? Looks like it was put up by a ...... (insert racial slur here)"

and

"How do you keep the students off the booze long enough to get them to do anything"


Actually the last one is probably justified.
 
#16
We are off to Ripon this year - we had our summer 2003 camp there too, but I joined after that so I have no idea what the place is like. Heard that it's ok though.

And as for splitting us up into different things, I doubt it. The last 2 summer camps I've been on it's been purely infantry for the field exercise phase. But hey, the souls upstairs seem to be changing EVERYTHING this year, and I have no clue what's going on anymore.
 
#17
Ripons okay, better than the places we've been to the last couple of years.

Phil the Greeks visit should be good. He visited in 2003 and did come out wih some great un-PC remarks, as well as slagging me of for being a student and that I was probably planning on spending the rest of my summer holidays in bed! The SUO at the time was also made to be "Phil's bitch", following him everywhere with a jug of tomato juice in case he was thirsty (weird). However be prepared for much boot polishing, salute practicising and No. 4 Coy Challenge being fixed to look as competative as possible!

Enjoy

D
 
#18
End of Bitching! Depress mouths to stops, etc. Enough! This thread has been pinged by the upstairs, so play nice. Irish_Cream, you may as well consider yourself in the Shi'ite, your internet track record is hardly perfect.
 
#20
Indeed you haven't bitched on this thread I_C but our "bitching" (I prefer to call them sarcastic joke comments) will have to stop for now I suppose. Nice comments only now.....haha

Hahaha I_C, you were well worried on Friday! I thought we were in the major sheeeet.
 

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