Ed Miliband voted less competent than Gordon Brown

#4
At least the Labour party can't be blamed for electing him. They all voted for his brother.
 

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#5
From the article:

After two and a half years in the job the Labour leader has scored at consistently lower levels than his predecessor did after the party's 2010 general election defeat, the YouGov poll found.

Despite his perceived failings, voters regard Mr Miliband as a better Labour leader than Mr Brown by 32 per cent to 17 per cent, the poll for the Times found.

But voters take a dim view of his abilities on a range of measures, and fifty per cent or more regard him as out of touch with the public, dithering and weak or unclear about what he stands for.

Fewer than one in five think that he is decisive or strong, and 42 per cent believe he is incompetent compared to just 28 per cent who believe the opposite.

Those who see him as untrustworthy outnumber those who view him as trustworthy by 11 points (40-29).

His dithering was seen as his most prominent attribute by 57 per cent of those questioned.

Out of nine attributes they were questioned on voters only had faith in one in Mr Miliband – his honesty. 39 per cent said he was honest against 24 per cent who said that he was dishonest.
So, he's a better leader than Brown. No surprise there - anyone with even the faintest tinge of empathy for fellow human beings is a better leader than Brown.

But the public think he doesn't know his arse from his elbow. So, lets do some research into Millipede's background.

Ed Miliband - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1992, after graduating from Oxford, Miliband began his working career in the media as a researcher to Andrew Rawnsley in the Channel 4 show A Week in Politics. In 1993, Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury Harriet Harman approached Rawnsley to recruit Miliband as her policy researcher and speechwriter.
What a surprise. One year after leaving Oxford (real son of the proletariat there), he's recruited as a policy researcher by the Labour party.

Experience of real life before going into politics: 1 YEAR!!!

Now remind me - why isn't he held in high regard by the British public?

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#6
I think his brother may well have had more support from MP's & the general public but only if he'd been able to manoeuvre the Labour party away from the left and onto a more centrist platform.

Then again I still wouldn't vote for them.
 
#8
From the article:



So, he's a better leader than Brown. No surprise there - anyone with even the faintest tinge of empathy for fellow human beings is a better leader than Brown.

But the public think he doesn't know his arse from his elbow. So, lets do some research into Millipede's background.

Ed Miliband - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



What a surprise. One year after leaving Oxford (real son of the proletariat there), he's recruited as a policy researcher by the Labour party.

Experience of real life before going into politics: 1 YEAR!!!

Now remind me - why isn't he held in high regard by the British public?

Wordsmith
How does Cameron compare with that? I know he was advising Lamont at the time of Black Wednesday so I suspect his real life record is similar. It's a cross party pattern.
 
#9
From the article:



So, he's a better leader than Brown. No surprise there - anyone with even the faintest tinge of empathy for fellow human beings is a better leader than Brown.

But the public think he doesn't know his arse from his elbow. So, lets do some research into Millipede's background.

Ed Miliband - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



What a surprise. One year after leaving Oxford (real son of the proletariat there), he's recruited as a policy researcher by the Labour party.

Experience of real life before going into politics: 1 YEAR!!!

Now remind me - why isn't he held in high regard by the British public?

Wordsmith
No change there then, wiki half of the front benches, both government and opposition and you'll see a motley collection of failed lawyers, lobbyists and PR spivs who have never had a callous on their soft, pink hands in their entire lives.
 
#12
The former prime minister also scored more points than Mr Miliband for being
. . . competent, 42 vs 28
Blimey, Brown scores more points for competency in ballsing up the whole UK economy than Milliband does in just leading his crap party


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#13
How does Cameron compare with that? I know he was advising Lamont at the time of Black Wednesday so I suspect his real life record is similar. It's a cross party pattern.
Much of a muchness.

David Cameron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cameron studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Oxford, gaining a first class honours degree. He then joined the Conservative Research Department and became Special Adviser to Norman Lamont, and then to Michael Howard. He was Director of Corporate Affairs at Carlton Communications for seven years.
Straight out of university and into the Conservatives as a political researcher 1988 - 1993. Director of Corporate Affairs (aka PR) at Charlton Communications 1994 - 2001, although he was trying to get a Tory seat from 1996 onwards. And into parliament in 2001.

He'd only been an MP for 4 years before he stood for the party leadership - his only experience of government being shadow positions and being an advisor to Lamont and Howard. Slightly more experience of real life than millipede, but his whole career has been based on talking rather than doing.

And there was me wondering why Call Me Dave talked a good fight and achieved far less...

Wordsmith
 
#14
I think his brother may well have had more support from MP's & the general public but only if he'd been able to manoeuvre the Labour party away from the left and onto a more centrist platform.
Not a chance. Labour's membership numbers have been dropping like a stone since Tony told GQ magazine that his favourite food is roast polenta at the River Cafe.

Strangely enough, wealthy businessmen like Bernie Ecclestone are no longer feeling the need to donate millions to the party - ever since Labour lost the ability to change the law.

That only leaves the brothers. Over 80% of Labour party funding now comes from trade unions and most of that comes from Unite. 23 of 29 shadow cabinet members are directly "sponsored" by Unite or other unions. Ed sold Labour so he could have a crack at being PM and the unions repaid him by engineering a coup to remove the democratically elected leader of the party.

The Labour party is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the unions and Len McCluskey is the Chairman of the Board.

Unite are extracting their pound of flesh. It is very difficult to be selected for a winnable Labour seat unless you are a Unite official. McCluskey talks openly about a "party within the party" and is attempting to dictate who will be in the shadow cabinet.

With Red Len running the show and his second in command (who is one of the few remaining members of the Communist Party of Britain) telling Ed what to do, the chances of a shift to the right for Labour is about as likely as David Cameron voting UKIP.
 

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LE
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#15
...the chances of a shift to the right for Labour is about as likely as David Cameron voting UKIP.
Considering half of our current crop of MP's would sell their grandmother into slavery for the chance to be a minister or have a shot at the top chair, would you like to run that comment about Call Me Dave never voting UKIP past me again?

MP's principles are not so much elastic as infinitely flexible.

Wordsmith
 
#16
I think his brother may well have had more support from MP's & the general public but only if he'd been able to manoeuvre the Labour party away from the left and onto a more centrist platform.

Then again I still wouldn't vote for them.
Therein lies the problem. All the parties are desperately trying to occupy a bland, one-size-fits-all centre position with the Liberals mooching about making it plain they are prepared to whore themselves out to anybody in order to share power (in the loosest possible sense as it is obvious Nick is only in charge of the rota for brew bitch).

The back benchers of the red and blue teams are narked as they watch the homologation of what should be diametrically opposed political concepts merge into a grey fudge (or should that be purple?)

In an ideal world would it not be good to have a purely apolitical technocratic administration to manage the country like a huge company? Socialism vs capitalism just muddies the waters... Just a continual struggle of ideologies.





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#17
Maybe they'll shift him before the elections.

You want a competent PM after all.
 

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