ECI RED @ 6 BAT

#1
There I am a SNCO in one of the humble Pls in 6 and listening to some short fat 'Q' man with too close together eyes telling me how shit we are and that he's gonna VOR the entire fleet. He practically told me that i was shite and that the entire bn was a bunch of W^&kers!! ECI teams need to realise that were busy out there, too busy to sometimes get everything right.

Our CO volunteers us for everything and I mean everything, no wonder we're seen as crap, we're the jack of all and masters of nothing 'cos there's little or no time to focus on anything! Over 15 years of service I've never been in a unit with a report as bad as the one we're getting, its an embarassment. Anyone got the number for truck driving school, I think I wanna be a truck driver!
 
#2
Easy there stumps!!!

ECI teams have been known to get it wrong with reports. I would be very suprised if you were that bad, but still providing support at the same time. Its a well known fact that ECIs dont always look at the important areas and concentrate on rubbish.
As for your Q man, he needs to chill and look at the reason not rip you apart and then realsie he has over reacted having to then ask nicely for you's to do your job that you are apparently so bad at. Sounds like he missed part of the management skills part of his Tiffy cse, or possibly all of it!!!

Unfortunately things are going to get worse soon, with all REME Bns being kept well busy. COs aren't spamming units, its the system not realising that REME units are overstretched more than many others.
 
#3
You're right Massive, just letting of a bit of steam. I've bust my ass off getting my areas right and so have alot of the othe lads. I think we do a quality job in hard times but all I hear from the HQ guys is that div and bde aren't happy and that we're not providing the quality of serivce they expect, but still they load us with more and more work so something has to suffer.... still would like that phone number though!
 
#4
More likely this Q man is schnecking a posting to DLO Andover.
 
#6
Easy there Stumps

Doesnt the Q Bloke realise that he has got it wrong himself, if its gone wrong under him then he must take some of the responsibilty.
After all, its his part of the train set to play fat controller with.
 
#7
When REME cant even pas there own tests there is somthing wrong not that I am pointing any fingers because I am only too aware of the tempo at BNs at the moment.

Dave
 
#8
Stumps

Same old story. Boys working there nuts off as they always do. When it goes well the boss man takes all the praise. When it goes wrong he takes non of the sh1t. Its a problem we've always had.

I can remember getting a group bollocking for not producing the goods years ago, with the boss blaming us all. He had the nerve to say that those on the shop floor had let him down, when in reality he had let the workers down by constantly expecting miracles while not giving us the tools or the chance to do so.

As i said, same old story. Don't think it will ever change.
 
#9
I hear you Massive,

Just spent the whole day trying to sort out the mess were in, most of the eci team are 5 Bat and being pretty good about things. This is all down to being too busy to get tings done properly, not being able to sort out our own house is embarassing to say the least. The BTO and our ASM look done in, the young lads who are siging off in droves aren't getting anything by way of confidence in what they're seeing. LAND, DIV, or DEME(A), I don't know who directly tasks us routinely need to realise that the Bn's are suffering hugley. Likie you say same old same old!
 
#10
I hear you Massive,

Just spent the whole day trying to sort out the mess were in, most of the eci team are 5 Bat and being pretty good about things. This is all down to being too busy to get tings done properly, not being able to sort out our own house is embarassing to say the least. The BTO and our ASM look done in, the young lads who are siging off in droves aren't getting anything by way of confidence in what they're seeing. LAND, DIV, or DEME(A), I don't know who directly tasks us routinely need to realise that the Bn's are suffering hugley. Likie you say same old same old!
 
#11
Stumps,

SMS in camberley are always on the lookout for drivers,

Good rates of pay and they give the Bill Odddies the better jobs,

Give them a bell i'm sure they can help you out in your hour of need

:twisted:
 
#12
Stumps,

SMS in camberley are always on the lookout for drivers,

Good rates of pay and they give the Bill Odddies the better jobs,

Give them a bell i'm sure they can help you out in your hour of need

:twisted:
 
#13
I can sense some serious frustration here. :( I can see that some have linked this issue to over commitment, under manning and changing priorities. Others have taken a somewhat defensive stance. Take it from me, these things happen for a reason, if the unit have been stretched and unable to address these issues, only honest reports will make people stop and take notice. So I say to you all, celebrate and rejoice that at last someone has been honest about the situation. How many times have you said the system must break before anyone takes notice? No one can blame one individual, we stand together and fall together.

Arte Et Marte
 
#14
28_years_later said:
I can sense some serious frustration here. :( I can see that some have linked this issue to over commitment, under manning and changing priorities. Others have taken a somewhat defensive stance. Take it from me, these things happen for a reason, if the unit have been stretched and unable to address these issues, only honest reports will make people stop and take notice. So I say to you all, celebrate and rejoice that at last someone has been honest about the situation. How many times have you said the system must break before anyone takes notice? No one can blame one individual, we stand together and fall together.

Arte Et Marte
Your right and this is a good thing, the whole unit from the CO downwards has sat up and listened but whilst most like me are getting on with setting things right others (no names!) are looking to apportion blame away from themselves. Times like this show the true characters of our leaders.
 
#16
:wink: Happy days, Thanks Stumps. Its good to see people can take a pragmatic view to these things. One has to pity those who look to blame others for their own weaknesses, however, unfortunately thats a fact of life. I fits any consulation, I think 6 Bn do a cracking job. :)
 
#17
Fellas,

This week has been a struggle for all those involved in the ECI, everyone from the top downwards have had to put pride aside and face the sad fact that we have shown signs of imperfection. It's good to see some of us seem to still care about where we will end up in the future and as a result have been working their nuts off to rectify what has gone wrong. As far as apportioning blame goes, if there are some of us around afraid to stand fast and accept that we are actually a team and as a result except part blame, then so be it. I've been on the receiving end of a RED ECI before, where I had no choice but to accept resposibility for some of the failings of the unit. The RED grading was a blessing in disguise and it made all concerned in the unit, including me take a look at themselves and reavaluate things. Most importantly however the higher elements of the chain of command did not look to apportion blame and as a result the failings were rectified faster and we recieved a Green 3 months later. Suffice to say, I believe this ECI result is merely the cattle prod on the butt of ignorance and hopefully it will become a vehicle to those that lead us to highlight our difficulties in the future.

"Arte Et Marte"

Stumps your're a wise man.
 
#18
Well said,

Thats the sort of response that inspires people to pick themselves up, dust themselves off and meet the issue head on. You guys will turn this thing round and come out stronger at the other end. Good luck :wink:
 
#19
What was the result of the previous ECI? and if it was a good one surley someone must have noticed things slipping.

I know that the Bn do a good job and the vibes from them with regard to WRP have been excellent and look forward to seeing them in Jan.
 
#20
You are absolutely right when you say that no-one notices until you fall over. This is not confined to 6 Bn, or indeed the field force - there are swingeing cuts being apportioned left, right and centre at the moment. Anyone who thinks that the service provided by IPTs can remain the same once their manpower (civ and mil) is reduced by 1/3 is certifiable. And anyone who believes that moving the IPTs from Andover to Abbeywood will offer any kind of advantage has clearly not studied the history of moves such as REME Manning and Records Office where (I think) the sum total of 2 people transported themselves from Leicester to Glasgow, hence losing a huge amount of corporate memory and leaving the new organisation with a significant knowledge/experience gap for 2 or maybe 3 years. I hope you fellas out there in the real world are getting ready for a much reduced output from the IPTs, possibly to 2012 !
 

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