East Germany in racist Neo-Nazi shocker - Tell us it isn't true Bugsy

#21
It's a 42 min film, you posted 10 mins after I opened the thread - I'm guessing you haven't watched it.....
You are, of course, quite correct, but I'm well aware of its content. In the same way , I'm aware of the one-eyed hypocrisy of touting yourself as 'the land of the free' when that is also patently untrue, particularly for ethnic/religious minorities.

It must be a sad, lonely existence when the best thing you can occupy yourself with on a Saturday evening is to create threads to troll someone. Each to their own.
 
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#23
You are, of course, quite correct, but I'm well aware of its content. In the same way , I'm aware of the one-eyed hypocrisy of tauting yourself as 'the land of the free' when that is also patently untrue, particularly for ethnic/religious minorities.
How does one 'taut' oneself and is it painful?
 
#29
Interesting, as I knew a number of Tanzanians when I worked there who had trained in East Germany, Romania and the USSR. Our Chief Mechanical Engineer had trained in the DDR to a strangely low standard but on return to Tz had enrolled on some sort of course with an American university and was highly valued (despite looking, walking and sometimes behaving like a crippled chimpanzee, he was genuinely excellent in his department and bought his round with the best of them afterwards). He told a similar story to those in the first half of the film above (got bored, sorry) of being seriously and actively disliked by the locals, and having to lock himself in his room for most of his stay.

The Maasai doctor who kept me breathing for a few days had trained to a MD level in Moscow, and who, in addition to Maasai and KiSwahili, could speak perfect English, Russian and German, which is above my pay grade in any rating. He told the same story about Moscow's dislike of blacks, and had the scars as a souvenir. My company's Nurse was trained in Romania, but he was a useless twat who deserved everything he got there.

I've no idea why the Sovs and their underlings thought that all this MultiCulturism would benefit international relations; none of those I spoke with had any truck with them at all.
 
#30
GDR was paradist I tell 'ee.
I know 'cos I was brung up in Liverpool
 
#31
Interesting, as I knew a number of Tanzanians when I worked there who had trained in East Germany, Romania and the USSR. Our Chief Mechanical Engineer had trained in the DDR to a strangely low standard but on return to Tz had enrolled on some sort of course with an American university and was highly valued (despite looking, walking and sometimes behaving like a crippled chimpanzee, he was genuinely excellent in his department and bought his round with the best of them afterwards). He told a similar story to those in the first half of the film above (got bored, sorry) of being seriously and actively disliked by the locals, and having to lock himself in his room for most of his stay.

The Maasai doctor who kept me breathing for a few days had trained to a MD level in Moscow, and who, in addition to Maasai and KiSwahili, could speak perfect English, Russian and German, which is above my pay grade in any rating. He told the same story about Moscow's dislike of blacks, and had the scars as a souvenir. My company's Nurse was trained in Romania, but he was a useless twat who deserved everything he got there.

I've no idea why the Sovs and their underlings thought that all this MultiCulturism would benefit international relations; none of those I spoke with had any truck with them at all.

They were kept in what looked like old barracks and rarely socialised with the locals. I never got the chance to speak to any of them because the Stasi took exception to our presence.
 
#33
Our resident pantalon o’fire is being quiet today, is this the truth that pushed him over the edge...finally?

Or is he busy finding some obscure German book to prove we are all wrong as usual.

MB
 
#34
#36
You are, of course, quite correct, but I'm well aware of its content. In the same way , I'm aware of the one-eyed hypocrisy
Good to see you've got an open mind then, no point watching something that is actually the core of the thread if it disagrees with your world view .........:rolleyes: Did you say something about one-eyed hypocrisy?

And didn't your mum teach you two wrongs don't make a right?'
 

DaManBugs

LE
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#37
I'd forgotten about this..........

Remember the socialist paradise that was the land of workers and builders that Bugsy fondly remembers and misses so much? Turns out it was not so much a land of worker's solidarity with the 2nd and 3rd world, just another hypocritical dictatorship

Ooh, Maypole! After some truly heroic efforts, you've finally found something else that's "negative" about the GDR. Racism in East Germany, eh? Whooda thortit! It's especially important because East Germany was the only country in which racism occurred in the whole history of humankind. You've done the world a great service there, mush.

Now to your real reason for starting your stupid, infantile thread. You've always taken umbrage at the fact that I happen to know far more about the GDR than you. You stood, allegedly, on the Berlin Wall on the night if "fell". The only place you could've done that was at the Brandenburg Gate, because apart from one other place, that was the only location where the Berlin Wall had a flat top. The other place was the lintel over the gate leading to Steinstücken, before it was re-connected to West Berlin. But you'll obviously know nothing about that.

You were a squaddie in West Berlin. You could only visit Berlin, Capital of the GDR in uniform. I actually lived in Berlin, Capital of the GDR (and also in Dresden) in the late 1970s. You know practically nothing about the mentality, traditions, habits, culture, society, community or even the linguistic quirks of the East Germans and you don't speak German well enough to be able to ascertain any differences. All that is no problem for me because not only did I live in the GDR for 19 months in the late 1970s, I also moved back to East Germany at the beginning of February 1990, four months after the fall of the Berlin Wall, and remained there until December 1996.

Even I would never maintain that I know everything about the GDR, because I wasn't born and socialised there. But when I talk or write about the GDR, it's with some authority based on my personal experience; whereas you just rely on your counterparts knowing even less than you when you blow on about what an "expert" you are. Why can't you just accept that and carry on with your life? Do what I do; I take no notice of you because you're not in any way important for me. Just some sad sack with a low level of self-esteem and a very fragile ego.

Mit sozialistischem Gruß, Genosse!:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
 
#38
Ooh, Maypole! After some truly heroic efforts, you've finally found something else that's "negative" about the GDR.
Defensive from the word go.......nice one, don't blame me, blame DW

You were a squaddie in West Berlin. You could only visit Berlin,
No I wasn't and no, I got a bit further afield - Rugen Island, Frankfurt an Oder etc but thanks for your interest in my travel arrangements....... I spent longer in the East pre-unification than you did it would seem, but not really the point is it? Watch the video again and get back to me if you still don't understand anything

I talk or write about the GDR, it's with some authority based on my personal experience;
Where were you November 9th 1989 again? How many months did you actually live in the DDR?

I know, rather than act as the Shield and Sword of the party why not address the issues?
 
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DaManBugs

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#39
Defensive from the word go.......nice one, don't blame me, blame DW

No I wasn't and no, I got a bit further afield - Rugen Island, Frankfurt an Oder etc but thanks for your interest in my travel arrangements....... I spent longer in the East pre-unification than you did it would seem, but not really the point is it? Watch the video again and get back to me if you still don't understand anything

Where were you November 9th 1989 again? How many months did you actually live in the DDR?

I know, rather than act as the Shield and Sword of the party why not address the issues?
Clumsily altering the context of my post changes nothing about it, Maypole, since it's right above yours.

So you've "discovered" there was racism in the GDR. Triffick! What you're basically saying (or writing) is: look what the GDR did with regard to racism! It's just another of your clumsy, fuckwitted "whataboutery" posts. How about this, then: UK persecuting, oppressing and murdering the Irish for 800 years; kicking off the slave-trade in the Americas; the Septics; enslaving, lynching and otherwise murdering black folks even well into the 1970s; the Belgians (well, king Leopold); enslaving and murdering millions in the Congo. Do you really want to go there?

So you maintain that you spent longer in the GDR than I did. Really? I was there continually for 19 months in the late 1970s. In addition I was also there a further nine months until re-unification in October 1990. That's two years and two months altogther. But that's really not the point. You were there as a bigoted, conservative, anti-Communist Brit, while I was there as a committed Socialist living a normal life among the population. It's therefore small wonder that you failed to embrace the customs, traditions etc. That's not to mention your really dire lack of German.

To come back to your: "but not really the point". You keep banging on about knowing far more about the GDR than me. Do you? I don't know what you were doing there (BRIXMIS, maybe?), but I was working my day job as a picture-restorer. Going to and from work, mingling with the folks at work and in the local neighbourhood on a daily basis, etc, etc. In short, I was living as a normal citizen of the GDR. And you?

Finally, your standard question: where was I when the Berlin Wall fell? I've already told you a number of times that I was living in Basel. But I wasn't doing any bricklaying. I mentioned that one time as a bit of a joke (Berlin Wall, bricklaying, geddit?) and suddenly the meme among the ARRSE vermin was: "Ho, Bugsy's a bricklayer now!". I still fail to understand why you constantly mention your, alleged, standing on the Berlin Wall as your "claim to fame" or even your main claim to "know" the GDR.

MsG
 
#40
You are, of course, quite correct, but I'm well aware of its content. In the same way , I'm aware of the one-eyed hypocrisy of touting yourself as 'the land of the free' when that is also patently untrue, particularly for ethnic/religious minorities.

It must be a sad, lonely existence when the best thing you can occupy yourself with on a Saturday evening is to create threads to troll someone. Each to their own.
he's not a yank, nice try though
 

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