East Africa - any ripple effect?

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  1. The Frog Princess and I have decided to take the two tadpoles on a 'once-in-a-lifetime' trip to Africa this Summer. The two destinations at the top of the list so far are RSA and Tanzania (mainland and Zanzibar). However, the Frog Princess has been pointing at the atlas and commenting on the proximity of Mount Kilimanjaro etc. to Kenya,which would rule out Tanzania.

    Most of the Kenyan trauma so far appears to be confined within certain hotspots. I wondered if any correspondents here on Arrse with knowledge of the region have a view on the likelihood of overspill to neighbouring countries ?

  2. Don't worry about it. Nobody in Tanzania gives much of a toss about the Kenyans and their shenanigans. The political situation is entirely different, the tribes are wholly different (only the Maasai occupy bits of both countries, and they're not part of the problem) and there's no spillover in any other sense. If you're going up to Moshi/Arusha, Kilimanjaro and the various parks on the Northern circuit, the worst problem you should meet up with is the overabundance of Toyotas around the waterholes. Enjoy.
  3. As soon as you land pick yourself up an 4 x SMG's and take the tadpoles and Miss frog through SMG Lesson 1 - 9.

    Jobs a goodun!


    On a serious note there is alot of money in Tourism these days. So security measures would be enforced if they were needed. Also the Government over here is normally quick to suggest not going to problem areas to save it the problem of having your 4 littles faces on Sky News!
  4. Tanzania not a problem, very tourist orientated. Minimal overspill from kenya anticpated.
    Tanzanians have a much stronger national identity thanks to Nyeri's ujama (sic) african socialism.

    There are the usual african issues, but crime is not as bad as RSA. However RSA does have some fantastic things to see and do.

    Arusha recommended also some of the resorts to south.
    nice friendly expat scene there, so if you get home sick, go watch the football with fish and chips at irish bar or english bar.

    only prob is that english is not so widespread, though this is changing
  5. I have just come back from doing a weeks security survey in Kenya. The situation in the Rift Valley / Western province is considered out of control and ethnic cleansing taking place basically tribal warefare, 36 hours to get out of town scenario. Kisumu, Eldoret, Nakura badly hit by violence.

    Mombasa has also suffered from the riot but not as bad as the NW, two germans murdered a few days ago near Mombasa, crime related rather than post election violence. Major hotels are nearly empty with thousands to be laid off from the tourist industry.
    The main routes to Nairobi from Mombasa were open but roads up to Uganda were blocked by gangs. This may imapct on Uganda with shortage of fuel, food etc.

    No reports of problems in Tanzania except normal crime and border smuggling activiries down in the SW corner with Kenya
  6. You could try Zimbabwe... there is an excellent exchange rate for currency I'm led to believe and its completely unspoiled by tourists or industry or any type of civilisation in fact.
  7. Schaden

    Schaden LE Book Reviewer

    Tanzania is fine, Botswana is awesome, Namibia is where you should go, massive deserts, Skeleton coast, huge game reserves, hire a 4x4 and head off, SA is too - well western for Africa, and they are having huge crap about power with daily power blackouts.

    What do you want to do and what do you want to see may I ask - I grew up in SA, lived in Namibia, Zim and Kenya and have visited most of the countries in sub-saharan Africa.

    My suggestions would be:
  8. Thanks, folks ! Very, very much appreciated.

  9. Sorry, misread, thought it said nipple effect ..........