Early Service Leavers for BBC documentary

#1
Hi all,

I'm a producer at BBC Birmingham making a film looking at problems faced by Early Service Leavers, due to the much reduced levels of support and help given when going back to civilian life. If you were an ESL I'd really appreciate hearing from you about what your experiences were when it came to leaving the forces. I can be reached at - dominic.carveley@bbc.co.uk I've already spoken to the administrator - Bad CO - who's approved puting this posting up. Thanks very much.
 
#2
Hi all,

problems faced by Early Service Leavers, due to the much reduced levels of support and help given when going back to civilian life..
I just wondered what support you would get from the BBC if you decided to leave them after 10-20 years...do they give you CTW, interview and CV advice, Resettlement advice ???

Just a quick question as Im sure service leavers get a far better package when deciding to move on than the BBC would give you so where do you get this REDUCED level of support idea from???
 

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#3
I left after just 6 years and I was more than happy with the support I received:


3 day CV and interview workshop including travel costs.

Just over £500 plus travel, food and accommodation allowance to retrain for a different job, in the end this equated to around £1700.

**** loads of paid time off to do courses and look for jobs etc. I think you officially get a week but I managed to blag tons more.

Free use of internet, during work time, to look for a new job.

Free medical and dental check up prior to leaving.

Enhanced Learning Credits equating to £3000.


Cheers ******* easy.

Added to the fact that from the day I put my notice in, I did literally no work for an entire year and still got paid, I'd say my overall experience was rather satisfactory.

For a small fee though, I'll be more than happy to go on your TV program and say I'm now a crack addled rent boy living under the platform at Victoria Station and it's all because the mob fucked me over.
 
#4
He's on about those who leave the service early - ahead of the big plan - for whatever reason. Usually those who have fkd up in some trivial way. They tend not to be entitled to all the jazz a normal service leaver would get and therefore land in civi street totally unprepared for whats to come.

Of course, if they hadnt fkd up in the first place they wouldn't be in that position - clearly it then becomes the MoDs fault...
 

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#5
I'm leaving early Thursday and I am getting a lift home.

Hope that helps.
 

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#8
He's on about those who leave the service early - ahead of the big plan - for whatever reason. Usually those who have fkd up in some trivial way. They tend not to be entitled to all the jazz a normal service leaver would get and therefore land in civi street totally unprepared for whats to come.

Of course, if they hadnt fkd up in the first place they wouldn't be in that position - clearly it then becomes the MoDs fault...
Is he? It just said early service leaver. Surely that is anyone who left before completing their 22 years?

Otherwise it would only really apply to people who have been sacked, in which case, **** 'em.
 
#9
He's on about those who leave the service early - ahead of the big plan - for whatever reason. Usually those who have fkd up in some trivial way. They tend not to be entitled to all the jazz a normal service leaver would get and therefore land in civi street totally unprepared for whats to come.

Of course, if they hadnt fkd up in the first place they wouldn't be in that position - clearly it then becomes the MoDs fault...
Yes but all those who fulfill the minimum part of their contract are entitled to some kind of help....I bet more than Dom gets offered from BBC.

3 Day week B&T, didnt know you were on extended hours now mate.
 

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MIA
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#10
Yes but all those who fulfill the minimum part of their contract are entitled to some kind of help....I bet more than Dom gets offered from BBC.

3 Day week B&T, didnt know you were on extended hours now mate.
Hardly. Friday I'm going sick!
 
#11
He is mate - it's a whole division of Service Leaver with the emphasis on Early (ESL). There's even special regulations and checklists that need to be completed and ticked in order to make sure ESLs are looked after as the toddle off to civi street...
 
#12
I think the minimum period to qualify for normal resettlement package is 5 years (need to check). However, the ESL is 'entitled' to nothing and therefore becomes vulnerable - hence the ESL package.
 

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#13
He is mate - it's a whole division of Service Leaver with the emphasis on Early (ESL). There's even special regulations and checklists that need to be completed and ticked in order to make sure ESLs are looked after as the toddle off to civi street...
Really? Fair do's, I bow to your superior knowledge.

Anyway back on thread:

Dom, how much will I get for my performance on this program? I'm happy to do it if you blank out my face and give me a digitally altered voice, like Andy McNab, for 100 notes. If you want me to nosh anyone off or snort mainline it will be extra. I know someone with a really shitty council flat that we can film in if it's any help.

Anyway let me know what you think.
 

B_AND_T

MIA
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#14
Really? Fair do's, I bow to your superior knowledge.

Anyway back on thread:

Dom, how much will I get for my performance on this program? I'm happy to do it if you blank out my face and give me a digitally altered voice, like Andy McNab, for 100 notes. If you want me to nosh anyone off or snort mainline it will be extra. I know someone with a really shitty council flat that we can film in if it's any help.

Anyway let me know what you think.
Your not using my gaff unless I get a cut.
 

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#15
I left after just 6 years and I was more than happy with the support I received:


3 day CV and interview workshop including travel costs.

Just over £500 plus travel, food and accommodation allowance to retrain for a different job, in the end this equated to around £1700.

**** loads of paid time off to do courses and look for jobs etc. I think you officially get a week but I managed to blag tons more.

Free use of internet, during work time, to look for a new job.

Free medical and dental check up prior to leaving.

Enhanced Learning Credits equating to £3000.


Cheers ******* easy.

Added to the fact that from the day I put my notice in, I did literally no work for an entire year and still got paid, I'd say my overall experience was rather satisfactory.

For a small fee though, I'll be more than happy to go on your TV program and say I'm now a crack addled rent boy living under the platform at Victoria Station and it's all because the mob fucked me over.
Do you ever get the feeling that they were TRYING to get rid of you and more than happy to ease you out the door? :)
 
#16
I left on leave in December and I'm at home getting paid until March, as you can imagine I am suffering from some horrific friction burn.
 

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#17
Do you ever get the feeling that they were TRYING to get rid of you and more than happy to ease you out the door? :)
The mob loved me, my boss even cried when I left. Shortly after my TX date we had to withdraw from Iraq, they scrapped the Ark Royal, retired the Harrier jump jet and disbanded a load of TA signals units.

Coincidence? I think not.
 

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#18
Well I PVR'd during a 2 year op tour in NI. What did I get? A one way ticket and a battered MFO box!
Didnt miss resettlement one bit, I doubt they would have been any jacker than the OC was anyway. Boy was I glad to get away from him!
 
#19
There are TA bods around who treat it as their full time job and have been tour-hopping for years. They'd make an interesting case study, as I don't believe they get anything in the way of resettlement.
 
#20
I'm kind of hopeful that DomBBC has got the message...............................Don't waste our license fee on another non issue!!!!!!

Perhaps they could do a documentary on those who leave the service and get a job - any job - rather than ponse of the state??
 

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