e-petition about NHS.

#1
There is an e-petition of the UK Government website calling for action against the head of the NHS following the Francis Report, Anyone interested should look at it and sign if they so desire. Remember this could have and maybe did happen or is still happening at a hospital near you, five further hospitals are going to be investigated about their mortality. One of them I know is well known to have had problems and is even more well known to HM Coroners office, who have criticised the hospital and its care in the past.
 
#2
Not really the forum for it. Besides, it's already being dealt with at a very high level. Why are you trying to get involved? Do you think it helps? Do you think your gay little petition will achieve anything? Go away.
 
#4
There is an e-petition of the UK Government website calling for action against the head of the NHS following the Francis Report, Anyone interested should look at it and sign if they so desire. Remember this could have and maybe did happen or is still happening at a hospital near you, five further hospitals are going to be investigated about their mortality. One of them I know is well known to have had problems and is even more well known to HM Coroners office, who have criticised the hospital and its care in the past.
So despite the fact that action is being taken, you think that action should be taken?
 
#5
Question 1: Do you have a choice about over hospitals?
Question 2: Would allow want spouse, partner, parent, child, friend, enemy, dog or cat to be treated at Mid Staffs
Question 3: Do you trust the Department of Health and the NHS to sort it out?

Thought not. To ****ing right I want these idiots to know we, the tax paying, voting electorate are pissed off and want effective action.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#6
Question 1: Do you have a choice about over hospitals?
Question 2: Would allow want spouse, partner, parent, child, friend, enemy, dog or cat to be treated at Mid Staffs
Question 3: Do you trust the Department of Health and the NHS to sort it out?

Thought not. To ****ing right I want these idiots to know we, the tax paying, voting electorate are pissed off and want effective action.
in reply to question 1, not up here we don't. Not all parts of UK are blessed with multiple hospitals and even is they are, then often specialities will only be at one of them. Research has shown generally better to get treatment from someone who does that treatment regularly.

Question 2. Would suspect that currently at Mid Staffs despite low morale caused by constant attcks from folk on internet that care is good as all will be aware that they are being watched.

Question 3. DoH has set up a very business based model which fortunately has not been replicated up here so yes in fact I do trust NHS Scotland

And what do you see as effective action? Please describe your action plan, bearing in mind the current resources at your disposal and spending restraints set by the current Government.
 
#7
So despite the fact that action is being taken, you think that action should be taken?
This has been an investigation, but has not defined any action to be taken. The next five are only investigations. Francis did not name names in this case which I believe is corporate manslaughter.
 
#8
in reply to question 1, not up here we don't. Not all parts of UK are blessed with multiple hospitals and even is they are, then often specialities will only be at one of them. Research has shown generally better to get treatment from someone who does that treatment regularly.

Question 2. Would suspect that currently at Mid Staffs despite low morale caused by constant attcks from folk on internet that care is good as all will be aware that they are being watched.

Question 3. DoH has set up a very business based model which fortunately has not been replicated up here so yes in fact I do trust NHS Scotland

And what do you see as effective action? Please describe your action plan, bearing in mind the current resources at your disposal and spending restraints set by the current Government.
Q1. Scotland's health system is set up differently to England. That does include cross boardroom agreements.

Q2. That did not stop them a couple of weeks ago strapping a dummy in a babies mouth. Any member fo staff who thought about that place would have been long gone.

Q3. Scrap PFI and tell the present ones we will be renegotiating the contracts.
 
#9
Not really the forum for it. Besides, it's already being dealt with at a very high level. Why are you trying to get involved? Do you think it helps? Do you think your gay little petition will achieve anything? Go away.
Maybe if I go into hospital I want to know they are not going to try to kill me with negligence. What evidence do you have it's being dealt with at high level. Maybe you need to learn that sometimes you just need a pebble to start a rock fall. Achieve, at least have some people in court for corporate manslaughter. Oh and maybe you should foxtrot oscar.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#10
Q1. Scotland's health system is set up differently to England. That does include cross boardroom agreements.

Q2. That did not stop them a couple of weeks ago strapping a dummy in a babies mouth. Any member fo staff who thought about that place would have been long gone.

Q3. Scrap PFI and tell the present ones we will be renegotiating the contracts.
Unfortuately most PFI contracts cast iron with large penalty clauses.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#12
That's why we have lawyers to look at the contracts and find where possible for non compliance as a reason for rescinding it.
Such as happened with aircraft carriers where it was cheaper to build them than cancel?
 
#13
That's why we have lawyers to look at the contracts and find where possible for non compliance as a reason for rescinding it.
What makes you think the Hospital Trusts have not already tried to find ways of reducing the PFI bill?
I think you will find that no healthcare professional would willingly chose to lower healthcare standards in order to pay the bills.
 
#14
Maybe if I go into hospital I want to know they are not going to try to kill me with negligence. What evidence do you have it's being dealt with at high level. Maybe you need to learn that sometimes you just need a pebble to start a rock fall. Achieve, at least have some people in court for corporate manslaughter. Oh and maybe you should foxtrot oscar.
Why don't you have a petition to get hospitals to employ British people rather then import them from other countries because its allegedly cheaper. Then maybe there would be less deaths.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#15
Why don't you have a petition to get hospitals to employ British people rather then import them from other countries because its allegedly cheaper. Then maybe there would be less deaths.
How's it is cheaper? Health care professionals are paid on a banding system whereby the role is linked to a band and hence wages to that band. Therefore country of origin of worker is immaterial, the pay is based on the role not the person.

Agenda for change - pay rates - NHS Careers
 
#17
How's it is cheaper? Health care professionals are paid on a banding system whereby the role is linked to a band and hence wages to that band. Therefore country of origin of worker is immaterial, the pay is based on the role not the person.

Agenda for change - pay rates - NHS Careers
Of course the source of origin is important. Some people don't want any old fergil sharkey making them better don't you know


Posted from my ipad whilst on the loo(iOS or Android)
 
#18
Q3. Scrap PFI and tell the present ones we will be renegotiating the contracts.
How does that help? When the government builds a new facility, it can spend cash that it has, it can spend cash that it does't have (ie borrow it) or it can go to industry and get them to borrow the cash, then pay them a service charge until the debt is paid off. Thats what PFI is; get industry to borrow the money required to build a facility, then pay it back as a service charge, thereby hiding the debt from the government's balance sheet and on the contractors.

Scrapping PFI won't held because the government still owes the money to the PFI contractors for providing the facilities. Suddenly all of that borrowing that is currently off the government's balance sheet and on those of the PFI contractors comes back onto the government's balance sheet.

Or are you suggesting that government simply defaults on the debt?
 
#19
Unfortunately the funding cuts in England will mean that health care will continue to be managed along fiscal lines and not holistic care. There are big changes being forced on Primary and Secondary care which are entirely politically driven and will involve a lot of box ticking ahead of care
 
#20
I can assure you that several staff have and are being investigated, already suspended at mid staffs recently.

The dummy taped to the mouth reporting is again, reported by the media as if it just found out, the incident was reported to authorities and acted on, the parents had been informed 3 days before the baby was released from the hospital.

how many times have ARRSERS commentated on other stories involving especially military "it's a non story" as it had already been sorted because no harm was done?
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
jash OTC and ACF 21
Iamagoldfish OTC and ACF 60
wHoSaIdThAt? Current Affairs, News and Analysis 0

Similar threads

New Posts

Latest Threads

Top