tothepubandbeyond said:

I was thinking more along the lines of the mathematics being taught integrating with other subjects that require mathematics. Also If you understand the principles it is often a damn sight easier to carry out the meathods. Maybe we need to think about mathmatics as an essential base skill for other subjects rather than just a discipline in its own right, at least up to GCSE, and use A-level Mathematics to start teaching "pure" Maths.

On a point aside the basic algebrae that we were taught was often too simplistic for the level that was required for the maths.

Then again maybe as an engineer I see maths as only a third of the knowledge that I need, the other two aspects being the theory behind a subject, and the subjects practical applications.

I hope that the new level 3 Diploma's introduced thi ssummer will do exactly this with several common maths based modules used over most diploma's: engineering/ construction/ built environment even hairdressing etc but adapted to suit that particular area of study ( I say hope because it's now my new career having left the services to ensure that at least one does

I am a PM in the construction industry, some of my projects involve dealing with vocational education projects with the LSC)

[quote="GuNo!l]Its good to know that dyscalculia is being recognised, I wasn't aware it is being acknowledged at all.

Hopefully the teaching of mathematics in a more practical and understandable way will catch on quickly[/quote]

It's not happening fast enough to be honest.

It is possible at Foundation Degree/ HND level Maths to master the techniques without actually understanding the principles, trust me..... half my tiff's course managed it. There are some "banker" questions at every level (Get Higher Level Mathematics by J Bird

Amazon Link and practice his end of chapter questions, they can generally be carried out methodically without a great depth of understanding and using the same approach for each type of question). This is in my opinion one of the best engineering maths books around for technician level and most civvy courses use it as the course reader, there are others more suitable for an ordinary or honours degree level engineering course.

I know it doesn't help much, and certainly won't aid your understanding but at the end of the day maths is a small (but necessary) part of being a tiff if you can get through the maths stages and engineering stages that rely on it by pure memory and a methodical approach you will not have cheated (or not cheated more than many who have gone before you) It will in fact probably be more difficult because of the shortcuts understanding allows you to take.

Good luck.

Edited to add: Offog, thanks for the link I will be listening to that tomorrow.