Drug Misuse/Security Vetting

My son was recently discharged from the Royal Navy for drugs misuse (administrative discharge). He got a new job very quickly but now has been offered a job as a contractor for a company who has a government contract for which he has to be security vetted. I’m assuming the vetting will show the reason for his discharge and he will be unsuccessful. Will this indeed be the case, can someone shed light on this subject?
 
My son was recently discharged from the Royal Navy for drugs misuse (administrative discharge). He got a new job very quickly but now has been offered a job as a contractor for a company who has a government contract for which he has to be security vetted. I’m assuming the vetting will show the reason for his discharge and he will be unsuccessful. Will this indeed be the case, can someone shed light on this subject?
I don't care, hope this helps
 
My son was recently discharged from the Royal Navy for drugs misuse (administrative discharge). He got a new job very quickly but now has been offered a job as a contractor for a company who has a government contract for which he has to be security vetted. I’m assuming the vetting will show the reason for his discharge and he will be unsuccessful. Will this indeed be the case, can someone shed light on this subject?
Don't do drugs in the Armed forces.

Simples. Cause and effect. Small actions cause massive issues.
 

urban_spaceman

War Hero
Not necessarily, but there’s only one sure fire way to find out.

Answer the questions honestly and you’ll see. Unfortunately, it may take a while, and, if you are unsuccessful, you may not be told the reasons why.

At least you’ll know one way or the other.

Just as the lads are saying, next time Just Say No.
 
Not necessarily, but there’s only one sure fire way to find out.

Answer the questions honestly and you’ll see. Unfortunately, it may take a while, and, if you are unsuccessful, you may not be told the reasons why.

At least you’ll know one way or the other.

Just as the lads are saying, next time Just Say No.
You are too soft, helping
 

2ndpreimage

Old-Salt
Not necessarily, depends on the circumstances. Vetting is at the end of the day a risk assessment. What risks does said person pose in the context of the job. Was it a simple mistake, got caught, coughed to it and the only outcome by policy is discharge? Might be no big deal in the grand scheme of things. Key thing, declare it all in the vetting process.

Only way to know is to try.
 

2ndpreimage

Old-Salt
Not necessarily, but there’s only one sure fire way to find out.

Answer the questions honestly and you’ll see. Unfortunately, it may take a while, and, if you are unsuccessful, you may not be told the reasons why.

At least you’ll know one way or the other.

Just as the lads are saying, next time Just Say No.
What he said
 
Not necessarily, but there’s only one sure fire way to find out.

Answer the questions honestly and you’ll see. Unfortunately, it may take a while, and, if you are unsuccessful, you may not be told the reasons why.

At least you’ll know one way or the other.

Just as the lads are saying, next time Just Say No.
I appreciate the maturity of your reply, thank you for that. The boys been punished, he made a mistake and is just trying to move forward in life and put it behind him. I’m sure you guys all know good men/women who have failed drugs tests in your time.
 
I appreciate the maturity of your reply, thank you for that. The boys been punished, he made a mistake and is just trying to move forward in life and put it behind him. I’m sure you guys all know good men/women who have failed drugs tests in your time.
No
 
Just a thought, we can assume he told his new employer the reason for his leaving the Navy and this prospective one?
 
Just a thought, we can assume he told his new employer the reason for his leaving the Navy and this prospective one?
He doesn't need to, unfortunately
 
True but they will soon know as he will need to fill the form in and the last time i did it, it goes through the employer.
 
Not necessarily, but there’s only one sure fire way to find out.

Answer the questions honestly and you’ll see. Unfortunately, it may take a while, and, if you are unsuccessful, you may not be told the reasons why.

At least you’ll know one way or the other.

Just as the lads are saying, next time Just Say No.
You are Nancy Reagan and I claim my eighth of Lebanese Black.
 
I appreciate the maturity of your reply, thank you for that. The boys been punished, he made a mistake and is just trying to move forward in life and put it behind him. I’m sure you guys all know good men/women who have failed drugs tests in your time.
Disregard the *********, depends on the job, the level of vetting, the vetting officer, whether your son has knocked drugs on the head and the answers he gives.
 
Just a thought, we can assume he told his new employer the reason for his leaving the Navy and this prospective one?
I’m not absolutely sure on this to be honest. He had to supply 5 years worth work references and other documentation so I’m assuming they know that he was discharged administratively at least.
 
Its been a while since I looked through the vetting paperwork but, whilst I'm sure that MOD vetting requires criminal convictions to be declared, I don't specifically recall discharges and the reason for them.

That said if there is any chance he will get found out, it is an integrity issue to have concealed it.

Why not get him to phone the HR department and they could give a definitive answer, and also his integrity in not hiding it will be more obvious.
 

Troy

LE
I once gave a character reference for a friend who was being DV'd again as part of his job at MOD Shoeburyness and Foulness Island. I was checked out as part of the process and having been SC and DV'd some long time before, I still had to have a face to face interview with the bloke conducting the enquiry. As he filled in a very lengthy form I was able to elaborate on the questions and answers too. Basically the gist of what he said was; "We just have to know about things. Good or bad, we just need to know so that we can evaluate. We even have pornographers in place who have passed DV. So much depends on the role and location." So my advice would be to speak up and make a clean breast of it all. If his history was to come out some time later and he hadn't told them of it. Then that would be his lot, with no appeal.
 

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