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Dropping of PFT for TA

Discussion in 'Army Reserve' started by junglist01, Nov 26, 2006.

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  1. junglist01

    junglist01 Swinger

    Can anyone comfirm if they have heard this as well ,that they have dropped the PFT for the TA unless you are going to be Deployed....
     
    junglist01, Nov 26, 2006
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  2. Tartan_Terrier

    Tartan_Terrier LE

    You have got to be kidding!

    I sincerely hope that you've heard wrong.
     
    Tartan_Terrier, Nov 26, 2006
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  3. polar

    polar LE

    3 letters went out at about the same time which said 3 different things. Just tell the pie eaters its still on, to be on the safe side
     
    polar, Nov 26, 2006
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  4. junglist01

    junglist01 Swinger

    Our pie eaters never even attempt it, never mind pass 1 !!!!!!
     
    junglist01, Nov 26, 2006
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  5. scaryspice

    scaryspice LE Moderator

    The letter accompanying the first revision of MATT and the TA Bounty says that the PFT is no longer to be a Bounty earning test because it is not gender-neutral. The letter does NOT say TA don't have to do it, just that a PFT pass will no longer be a Bounty-earning requirement.

    Such a test should "not be used to select individuals for reward or advancement". The letter does go on to say the focus for TA should be on the CFT rather than just personal fitness.

    I have to say that the Annex to the letter, which sets out the required standards isn't particularly clear as it still lists the PFT as a requirement.
     
    scaryspice, Nov 26, 2006
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  6. junglist01

    junglist01 Swinger

    Again another document from the powers that be, that is clear as mud, surely that new that it wasnt gender-neutral when when it was introduced.
     
    junglist01, Nov 26, 2006
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  7. Blyth_spirit

    Blyth_spirit War Hero

    It is still a requirement for all personnel to attempt a PFT at least once a year. All personnel should, naturally, pass! Failing the PFT is covered in the MATT documentation and should lead to training and retesting and AGAI 67 action if no improvement is achieved. Quite how this is to be enacted in a TA environment is unclear.

    To achieve bounty it is no longer a requirement to pass PFT. It has not been stated whether it is a nationwide TA requirement to attempt a PFT to qualify for bounty but most units (and those whom I have spoken to) believe it to be. Hopefully there will be clarification on this as there is a chance of two different interpretations.

    Be on the safe side - do the PFT.
     
    Blyth_spirit, Nov 26, 2006
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  8. Werewolf

    Werewolf LE

    No good idea ever included the phrase "gener neutral".
    If it's true, whoever came up with this should fcuk off back to the Guardian.
     
    Werewolf, Nov 27, 2006
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  9. msr

    msr LE

    msr, Nov 27, 2006
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  10. scaryspice

    scaryspice LE Moderator

    To be fair the (revolting I agree) phrase wasn't used in the letter itself - it's my interpretation of what they meant.

    I think you will find it has to do with equality and pay and all that malarkey.
     
    scaryspice, Nov 27, 2006
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  11. Un-Friendly-Fire

    Un-Friendly-Fire Old-Salt

    Just out of interest surely the test has seperate standards between genders why isn't it gender neutral already?
     
    Un-Friendly-Fire, Nov 27, 2006
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  12. MikeL

    MikeL Clanker

    loggie mate of mine seems to think the PFT is still a bounty requirement... PFT is a test, whereas the BPFA was an Assessment, sort of makes sense by the wording that its needed to pass...
     
    MikeL, Nov 27, 2006
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  13. scaryspice

    scaryspice LE Moderator

    UFF - I've explained it badly. The test cannot be used as bounty earning one because male and female standards differ.

    MikeL - your "loggie mate" is wrong. I have the letter in front of me. I quote "we have removed a PFT pass as a Bounty requirement".
     
    scaryspice, Nov 27, 2006
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  14. BusyDoingNothing

    BusyDoingNothing Swinger

    What a load of nonsense. And we wonder why some of the regulars don't take us seriously? One Army my arse. Don't tell the fat pie eaters - instead tell them there's a pie at the end of it for them, and have the duty officer follow up in the rear with the mess webley to put any of the bloaters that can't pass out of their misery. Death before dishonour and all that. What what.
     
    BusyDoingNothing, Nov 28, 2006
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  16. msr

    msr LE

    From where? I don't see it in TA Regs...

    msr
     
    msr, Nov 28, 2006
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