I was hoping to get a question answered and generally canvas more general opinions on the state of military driver training, from those more informed than myself. The question I have is: how long is the course to qualify someone to drive a B vehicle (which he is already qualified to drive during the day) at night with LUCIE? In terms of opinions, the view (certainly outside the RLC) is that courses to convert drivers to a new type of vehicle are too long. I understand that this recently lead a commanding officer to comment that his BG was fighting the war in Afghanistan through driver training. This is a real concern given the number of UOR vehicles now and the number and length of other types of courses and training required to deploy a sub-unit. The other observation, is that the MOD require a higher level of driver license/qualification than would be required on civvie street. For example where the army requires a driver to hold a C license to drive a vehicle that he could drive on a B license if he were a civvie. I also understand that there are several of these courses which can only be conducted at DST Leconfield rather than at unit locations. A further accusation that I have heard levelled (albeit a few years ago) is that there was a tendancy to try to RTU as may students as possible at the start of the course in order to knock as many instructors off for the duration of the course as possible. The inevitable conclusion that this leads me to is that at least some elements of DST Leconfield may be entirely self serving, in that inflicting some of these requirements on the field army justifies the size and strength of the place. In particular, I am also told that a number of retired military instructors do very well by coming back as civilian instructors. Clearly all this is outside my area of expertise. I have felt first hand the frustrations of the driver training course requirements and I have heard annocdotally about the rest. Can anyone with a little more experience in this field dispell or confirm any of this? Incidentally, my view that many army courses could be condensed is not restricted to those run by the RLC. My view is that by removing smoke breaks and working to the end of the working day (or later if required) every day of the week, most military courses could be reduced in overal length.