Driver/Lineman

#2
dj_simple said:
Am thinking of transfering to be a driver lineman. Do you lads enjoy it? av a gud crack? what jobs do you do mostly? Just interested!
Drive and lay line?? Just a thought.
 
#3
Depends how you view your career mate, as a driver lineman i've had a pretty good time,you see a bit of the world whilst out on detail as opposed to being stuck in a comcen or workshop, lineys bond far far better than fag ops or techs (which I have no doubt Yes_Sir! is) and you get a lot of driving qualls for civvi street if you play your cards right. Promotion isn't that bad up to full screw either, I done it in five years.
However at the other end of the spectrum the pay is crap compared to fag ops /techs, you'll probably sit at the rank of full screw forever waiting for a sergeant to die so you can have his stripes and once you get there you are forced to go RD competing with far younger fag ops/techs who are to f***ing idle to go fos/yos.

In summary being a driver/lineman is a great laugh, just don't ever expect to be RSM.
 
#4
i was under the impression that it is now called royal signals driver. I wasn't aware of any liney title anymore unless you can qualify two weeks at blandford as being a liney.

If you wanna get paid more and socialise with the regiment as a whole and not your select few mt friends then i would advise you choose another trade.

I have all the driving quals a driver has got but have the pleasure of being bracketed in the higher pay band.
 
#5
gary2000 said:
i was under the impression that it is now called royal signals driver. I wasn't aware of any liney title anymore unless you can qualify two weeks at blandford as being a liney.

If you wanna get paid more and socialise with the regiment as a whole and not your select few mt friends then i would advise you choose another trade.

I have all the driving quals a driver has got but have the pleasure of being bracketed in the higher pay band.
In response to the cockstand above me the basic course is now 4 weeks long and has been redesignated as "DRIVER LINEMAN"

Why?
Well back in 2000 we were told "you lot are all drivers now so get shot of your belts and hand your tools back in"
when exercise came around we were told to lay cable
To which our Sgt replied "sorry we're all drivers now besides we have no tools"
I believe his comments were repeated around the corps in other regiments.

What cracks me up is that some fag ops still call themselves "RTG's" when none of them has touched a morse key for years!
 
#6
A. Lineys bond far far better than fag ops or techs

They need to, anyone that has visited a line shack will tell you that they speak their own primitive language in there, so primitive in fact that no-one else understands them ;) :D

B. And you get a lot of driving qualls for civvi street if you play your cards right.

No more so than the rest of the Corps really apart from the obligatory "canner" (ADR) licence, the rest is freely available even for Techs.

C. This in no way implies that i am a Tech either! :D far from it ;)
 
#7
hairy_arrse04 said:
gary2000 said:
i was under the impression that it is now called royal signals driver. I wasn't aware of any liney title anymore unless you can qualify two weeks at blandford as being a liney.

If you wanna get paid more and socialise with the regiment as a whole and not your select few mt friends then i would advise you choose another trade.

I have all the driving quals a driver has got but have the pleasure of being bracketed in the higher pay band.
In response to the cockstand above me the basic course is now 4 weeks long and has been redesignated as "DRIVER LINEMAN"

Why?
Well back in 2000 we were told "you lot are all drivers now so get shot of your belts and hand your tools back in"
when exercise came around we were told to lay cable
To which our Sgt replied "sorry we're all drivers now besides we have no tools"
I believe his comments were repeated around the corps in other regiments.

What cracks me up is that some fag ops still call themselves "RTG's" when none of them has touched a morse key for years!
4 Weeks long. Says it all. Get a trade you can use in civ div later on.
 
#9
All i want really is a good crack with the lads qualifications are just a bonus. i have heard that lineys are able to get quals in fibre opticsis thet hard to get?
 
#11
jimmys_best_mate said:
Think Installation Tech would be a better bet if you want to learn fibre
iam a liney as you can tell, i joined in 1989/90 when it was combat lineman then the late 90's it changed to drive/lineman. I have all driver quals with haz mat instructors. I also have fibre optics, Cat 5 quals and anntena riggers and all civvi. But i've been very lucky to get these. When your a full screw to get to sgt you've got to get as many mil quals as you can.
 
#12
hairy_arrse04 said:
...at the other end of the spectrum the pay is crap compared to fag ops /techs, you'll probably sit at the rank of full screw forever waiting for a sergeant to die so you can have his stripes and once you get there you are forced to go RD competing with far younger fag ops/techs who are to f***ing idle to go fos/yos.
It's true that Drivers are on the lower pay band, but some could argue (not me though ;)) that, considering they are merely required to drive a vehicle around, they still get a pretty good wage. Meanwhile your 'fag ops' (as you so eloquently call them) actually need to engineer communication links. They still like to try and hang on to all that 'God's Trade' banter though. I'm sure you'd have a few choce expletives on that matter!

Once you get to Sgt you're hardly forced to go RD. If you actually like being a liney, then you can work your ticket (pardon the pun) as an MT Sgt and get paid top dollar (back onto high pay band) while you rack up the civvy quals (driving instr, qualified testing officer, cat C+E, hazmat) for when you resettle. You only have to get involved in mil trg etc of you want to leave your beloved job as a liney to be an SSM or RSM. Fair play for the ones who are good enough, but it's hardly the liney birthright is it?

Don't you think that the younger ops/techs etc who go RD are simply benefitting from the fact that they worked harder at school/were more intelligent/are smart enough to get involved early as career move rather than be forced into it when they're bored of driving? Not my opinion of course, but I'm sure there are those who would suggest it.

Then finally, the best guys in the trade will always get through (with a few exceptions). The guys who identify the best career path early on, aim for the courses which will stand them in the best stead, apply for the postings like ATR and RSS with a bit of limelight and actually take an active part in their own careers will undoubtedly be the ones who get the promotion. Unfortunately, they'll always have some jealous eejit ready to snipe them in the back for being arrselickers or whatever other convenient handle they can use.

CS

p.s. Ptarmigan is dying out slowly but surely. Once it's replaced by Falcon then you won't be laying any line. Line is dead, long live the fibre. Go Installation Technician instead, you'll get more valuable experience for civvy-street
 
#13
I ejoyed reading the comments of Hairy arse they made me giggle and I agree with all you mentioned. I have just served 23 years and out now just........ I joined in 1981 as a combat lineman and have met some great guys over the years. I always called myself a Combat Lineman even when they changed the friggin name. Got my riggers course, Bike licence, ADR etc and did alot of fibre in Sarajevo without the training picked it up as I went along. All the trade over the years has got me a good job in civvie street in Afghanistan believe it or not as a Line Crew Chief for a Canadian company. So the moral of the story is Linnies do rule even in Civ Div so if you want to be a liney I suggest rather than that you go Installation tech as that is mostly what people require and we are doing here lots of Fibre termination and Copper installs 50 - 100 pair.


All the best
and Lineys do rule

Tazman
 
#14
My arrse, Tazman. Im an ex op wont tell you which because Im sure Taz let you all know.
Work outside in 42 degrees, pissed off about not having the right supplies.
Or do next to nothing all day in AC office drinking brews and riding the tax free poney?!?!
Oh and happy b'day Tazman, you eld feck!! see you in AF1
 
#15
As for your comments Discos thankyou for the Happy Birthday. You are only jealous that we can get out and have good suntans, meet all the nice chicks and lots of interesting people. You on the other hand are stuck in the Helpdesk with alot of very strange people 1. Old dithering fart who does not wear a belt 2. The Boing Boing sisters one who is so short she can hardly peek over the Help desk hatch mmm not much help then to the customer. 3. The other sister hermitt crab nasel hair and bottle bottom glasses does she sweep the floor with them huge mambas sticking out of her nostrils. she scares them away. 4. You Disco no foreigner can understand you when they come to the Helpdesk K ? Your supposed to do crypto but the Crypto paper is so small for your billy lightbulb thumbs you struggle to shred it. You like GI Joe haircuts High and tight.5. Some Spanish Canadian who cant write and can hardly speak any English K ?? So as you see Discos I think I have the better job a good bunch of lads and you wish you were with us........... Go On admit it.......... Love It


Tazman

Love you too Scouse git
 
#16
Can I first just applogise for jock mumblings from taz, he gets abit confused coming to the twilight years, found him walking round the camp at 5 in the afternoon in his thong, asking for juice and pieces must be his cravings for his merry down
As for the lads you were work with, the two descent line men are both ex royal sigs operators!!! Found out how easy it is and decided to make some easy money!
Then there is SLS, enough said!!!
Anyway back to the thread, dont go line. You may end up like tazman!!!

Scoff 1730hrs

cheers easy
 
#19
Chances are very good if you get the right unit.

You want to be aiming at getting posted to NI.

There is nothing to stop you trying for Inst Tech later in your career if you have the potential.

Good luck!
 
#20
As a Liney chances are good to get on your riggers course at RAF Digby. The course is only 2 weeks long nowadays so they will just teach you the basics and when you get to NI you will be on the job trained. Firstly you have to write a letter through your chain of Command requesting a posting to NI with a unit that has Riggers ie 39 Bde, 8 Inf Bde,15 Sigs only had telemechs when I was there. Once you get a posting granted to NI you will have the authority to apply for your Riggers course. There is a long waiting list and they only load about 10 a course. The other way to do it is to apply for your riggers course and if you have to wait apply for a safe to climb course. That is only 3 days at Digby but it will give you clearance to climb with a qualified Rigger in NI. Hope this info helps.

Cheers

Tazman
 
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