Drink Driving

#1
Bad night last night and got stopped for drink driving. I know it is my fault but only had three halfs and thought i would be ok. Showed up as 41 which was one to many. Any any advice to the possible punishment from the army. I am terrified now that i could be dismissed which would be my ultimate nightmare.
 
#4
You should be burnt alive... on the parade square.... in front of the Regiment.... as they sing a little ditty.

However, I am sure you are remorseful for being so fcuking stupid, so we'll calm the recriminations.

Now to business. You probably will get some sort of punishment. Can't say for sure what you will get, but here is an example. This guy isn't a driver by trade either.

A lad I know was similarly "only" just above the limit and received a 6 month ban for starters (from the civpol), a 3 year promotion ban and a 3 month bender. As a brucie bonus he was going on tour to fill a slot one rank higher, he would have received the extra rank and money, instead they sent him out as is to do the same job.
 
#5
So are you still a Phase 2 or have you just got to your unit?

Not the best start to your career but there we go! I am by no means an expert but - if you are not Driver Trade and don't need a licence for your trade then I think you can probably expect a number of interviews without coffee and AGAI action.

But as I said I am no expert - each case is dealt with on it's own merits and the outcome could/can/will probably take into account:

Whether D&D is classed as a Prevalent Offence (do they still exist?)
Your conduct to date
Your CoCs attitude to D&D

Report the incident to your CoC as soon as you get back to camp - not forgetting to check the train timings to get you back there in plenty of time . . .
 
#6
Cook said:
No not a driver trade. Only been in six months.
good start :x

i very much doubt you will be dismissed, going by the amount of lads we have had done for it, dont know any that were kicked out, do know one who was a full screw about to be promoted (in 92) he never got that promotion and left after 22 years last year still a full screw.
 
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Bottleosmoke

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#7
Well, you are going to lose your licence for at least 15 months.

12 if you attend an alcohol rehabilitation programme.

£600 fine or thereabouts.

Lose all respect from your peers and superiors and be forever known as "that drink driving twat"

What your CO does is down to him.

Not a very good start is it?

Oh and if you classed as a young or new driver you will be required to retake the driving test.

Happy christmas.
 
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Bottleosmoke

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#10
Civilian magistrates court, hence the bans and fines.

They will notify you of a date. You WILL get a ban so dont take your car!

Ensure that you report this incident as soon as you get back to work. Although, if you told the plod that you were serving they may well have already informed the Orderley Officer at your unit.

Do not try and blag it.

And dont try pleading any mitigating circumstances to the court, there are none when it comes to D and D.
 
#11
See if you can get someone to vouch for your good character, etc. If there is anyway of reducing the ban (ie lessons on not drinking and driving) go for it.

Bad news is, you'll have to admit this each time you renew your insurance for 5 years from when you get your licence back (if it is taken).
 
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Bottleosmoke

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#12
chocolate_frog said:
See if you can get someone to vouch for your good character, etc. If there is anyway of reducing the ban (ie lessons on not drinking and driving) go for it.

Bad news is, you'll have to admit this each time you renew your insurance for 5 years from when you get your licence back (if it is taken).
And the endorsement stays on your lincence for 11 years!

Talk about Stigma!
 
#13
Phone the guardroom, inform them of the incident and make sure they note it in the DOB. That makes sure your CofC is aware. Speak to your Tp/Pl stripey when you get back from leave.

You'll probably lose your licence etc, etc as already mentioned. Then you'll get something from the Army too - if you're lucky it'll just be AGAI 67, if not then it could be as bad as the CO wants it to be. It's very, very unlikely you'll get chucked out though.

If possible, take an officer to speak for you in court - I read somewhere not long ago that sentences are on average much lower when an officer has spoken for you in court.
 
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Bottleosmoke

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#14
jimmys_best_mate said:
Phone the guardroom, inform them of the incident and make sure they note it in the DOB. That makes sure your CofC is aware. Speak to your Tp/Pl stripey when you get back from leave.

You'll probably lose your licence etc, etc as already mentioned. Then you'll get something from the Army too - if you're lucky it'll just be AGAI 67, if not then it could be as bad as the CO wants it to be. It's very, very unlikely you'll get chucked out though.

If possible, take an officer to speak for you in court - I read somewhere not long ago that sentences are on average much lower when an officer has spoken for you in court.
Its a mandatory ban of 12 months. You wont get lower than this.
 
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Bottleosmoke

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#16
Which is why they generally give a 15 month ban these days with the option of having it reduce to 12 on the attendance of the course i mentioned earlier.
 
#17
you might be done before you get back to work.

i was on a two week course a couple of years back, had a rather large session on the middle friday, the lad i was with had sorted to go golfing the next day, so off he pops, got stopped by the bill and done for DD, he was in court during the last week and banned and fined.

to add to his woe's he had driven down from inverness and had no way of getting the car back up.

dont think your unit will do an awful lot TBH, maybe a 3 month job or such but in my experience latley after the shouting is done thats it over with
 
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blindfire

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#18
I really can't believe that people still drink and drive - how f**king stupid are people.

Anyway one of our guys got done but by mil police in germany - he got 600squid fine and 2 year ban.
He was a CPL and stayed a CPL for the rest of his career - he'd just bought a brand new car as well aprrox 2months old when he was caught - oh how we laughed :D :D
 
#20
Bossdog said:
Glad you got caught. Another mile down the road you may have killed someone.

Unlucky. Enjoy your Christmas.
What he said!

However you will probably get a CO's displeasure which will mean a 2 year promotion ban and will sit on your file for 5 years. Which means you probably won't get promoted for that 5 years as most, if not all, Officers sitting on promotion boards view drink driving very dimly indeed!

As Bossdog elluded to I hope they throw the book at you!

Jimima
 

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