Drink Driving ban causing big problems....need advice plz

#1
Ok, so the crack is...i suffered a drink driving and driving without insurance (actualy had insurance but because my local police station never sent the certificate off to the court i was charged for this also..) ban in june '06, last year i applied for the RAF but after about 3 month into the recruitment process they decided to terminate my application and i would have to re-apply after the 5yr rehab period, so instead i decided i wanted to join the army, upon visiting my local aico i was told i need to obtain a memorandum of convictions, this is gona set me back £120 and with no guarentee of of being accpted even after this..i was hoping someone might no what chances i have of being able to join up once i get this memorandum of convictions...
 
#2
Guess what sunshine, if you were drunk then you weren't insured; your insurer will almost definitely exclude it.

It's not a huge issue, so long as you're up-front about it and you're not still subject to a ban or other restrictions, but you'd be best off talking to the AFCO staff about this as they can explain the rules concerning rehabilitation of offenders and when the conviction will become spent.
 
#4
Bravo_Zulu said:
Guess what sunshine, if you were drunk then you weren't insured; your insurer will almost definitely exclude it.

fair point..the biggest worry i have is that the RAF decided i would have to serve the 5 year rehab period, and that if i fork out £120.00 for this memorandum of convictions its quite possible the army will just say the same thing.. :s
 
#5
leegriggs said:
Ok, so the crack is...i suffered a drink driving and driving without insurance (actualy had insurance but because my local police station never sent the certificate off to the court i was charged for this also..) ban in june '06, last year i applied for the RAF but after about 3 month into the recruitment process they decided to terminate my application and i would have to re-apply after the 5yr rehab period, so instead i decided i wanted to join the army, upon visiting my local aico i was told i need to obtain a memorandum of convictions, this is gona set me back £120 and with no guarentee of of being accpted even after this..i was hoping someone might no what chances i have of being able to join up once i get this memorandum of convictions...
so the crack is.....
do one.............
your not wanted or needed................
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#6
leegriggs said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
Guess what sunshine, if you were drunk then you weren't insured; your insurer will almost definitely exclude it.

fair point..the biggest worry i have is that the RAF decided i would have to serve the 5 year rehab period, and that if i fork out £120.00 for this memorandum of convictions its quite possible the army will just say the same thing.. :s
Like it or not you will have to get this document if asked, you application will proceed no further until you do. Yes you may get knocked down, there is only one way to find out.
 
#7
i understand drink driving is prbably one of the most fowned upon things in the army, especially before you have even applied...but you cant tell me that there isnt one person in the army without a driving conviction in the previous 5 years...
 
#8
leegriggs said:
i understand drink driving is prbably one of the most fowned upon things in the army, especially before you have even applied...but you cant tell me that there isnt one person in the army without a driving conviction in the previous 5 years...



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#10
leegriggs said:
i understand drink driving is prbably one of the most fowned upon things in the army, especially before you have even applied...but you cant tell me that there isnt one person in the army without a driving conviction in the previous 5 years...
leegriggs,

The Army is really well off recruitment -wise just now. So much so, that there's moves afoot IN the Army to hoof people out who can't pass basic tests/ aren't fit to deploy. The downside of this for people joining up is that the recruiters can pick and choose the very best of applicants. I don't have the knowledge to say whether you'll get in or not but as was posted above, you can find out from a recruiter.

If you really want to get in you should probably jump through all the hoops they ask you to.


Hope this helps and goodluck.
 
#13
You never turn off the tap, just decide which dribbles to let in. If you turn off completely (as found in certain regiments in the past) you cannot then turn it on quick enough when you need it.

Being in the Army and then getting convicted of a driving offence is different to getting into the army with an existing offence. Get the certificate, show you're a changed man and never meant it. good luck.
 
#14
Might even try going TA, doing a Tour and prove yourself that way? Best you don't go for a trade that involves driving though :lol:
 
#15
Bravo_Zulu said:
Guess what sunshine, if you were drunk then you weren't insured; your insurer will almost definitely exclude it.

The insurer may exclude any claim in the event of an accident (ie excess alcohol being the aggravating factor) However, if this was just a routine police stop, and you were charged with no insurance, well it's because you weren't insured! PNC would show insurance in force, although I accept there is the odd mistake or delay in loading insurance details. It's not the job of the police to 'send insurance details to the court' It's YOUR responsibility to prove you are insured. If you were insured, the police would not have proceeded with a no insurance charge, as insurance was inforce at the time, therefore no offence committed. It only gets sticky when there are aggravating factors such as an RTC occurs

It's not a huge issue, so long as you're up-front about it and you're not still subject to a ban or other restrictions, but you'd be best off talking to the AFCO staff about this as they can explain the rules concerning rehabilitation of offenders and when the conviction will become spent.
 

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#17
leegriggs said:
Ok, so the crack is...i suffered a drink driving and driving without insurance (actualy had insurance but because my local police station never sent the certificate off to the court i was charged for this also..) ban in june '06, last year i applied for the RAF but after about 3 month into the recruitment process they decided to terminate my application and i would have to re-apply after the 5yr rehab period, so instead i decided i wanted to join the army, upon visiting my local aico i was told i need to obtain a memorandum of convictions, this is gona set me back £120 and with no guarentee of of being accpted even after this..i was hoping someone might no what chances i have of being able to join up once i get this memorandum of convictions...
A few points,

1. You did not suffer a drink driving conviction, you were found guilty of driving while under the influence of alcohol.

2. I suggest you read and comprehend Values and Standards of the British Army, paying particular attention to Para 16 under Values and Paras 18 and 25 under Standards.
Also reading and understanding A British Soldier's Values and Standards wouldn't go amiss, paying particular attention to pages seven, eight, ten, twelve and fourteen.
I realise that these are Army publications, but the same thing is expected of those serving in all three Services.
(The RAF probably have a similar publn, just without the bit about not touching of other men's bottoms.)

3. The above said, if you have quals that the Service you wish to join is short of they might take you anyway, it won't hurt to ask.

4. You could also use the year you have available until your conviction is spent to learn something needed, (language skills ?) and get your fitness up to gymn queen standards.

In short, you have been a cnut in the past.
If you can learn from it you might have a chance with the rest of your life.
 

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