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Drill, blank files.

#1
We will be conducting some drill practise soon and want some advice on blank files, as it's been awhile.

What's the score with a blank file? I know the front man stands on the front rank but the next guy, is he at the rear or the middle.
Also if marching around does the blank file push forward if we are facing the other way.

Many thanks
 
#2
The Blank File is positioned on the left of the squad, immediately to the right of the furthest file left.

If you have one, he goes in the front rank. If you have two, front and rear ranks. If you have three, you don't have a blank file.

If you have a single individual, should the order 'About Turn' be given, after completing the movement the individual takes the relevant paces forward (depending if you're in open or close order), halts smartly in the rear rank, dresses himself, then stands still.
 
#4
Whilst marching in 3's the with two blank files, he should cross from side to side dependng on the dressing.

ie By the left - man moves to the left. by the right - man moves to the right.

The blank files are covered o the right dress.

ie form the squad. if you are one down, you will have a space on the rear rank. on 'right dress' no 2 drops back, no 8 side steps. blank file second from left, middle rank.

000000 right dress. 0000000 then 0000000
0000000 000000 000000 0
0000000 0000000 0000000

if you have two blanks,

number 2 stays still, numbers 4 and 6 side step, creating two blank spaces n the 2nd from left file.
 
#5
Ooh drill question time, goody.

Which are the correct words of command?

In the open order right dress

or
Open order march
Right dress.
 
#7
It is 'In Open Order...Right Dress' The executive word of command is the word 'dress'. I'm assuming your talking about Army Foot Drill and not RAF pole dancing...
 
#10
Yes, not RAF pole dancing.

Its interesting coming from a crab background and noticing the ever so slight differences in drill, about turn on the march for example and "check T L V" for the crabs and "check left right left" for the army.

Makes you wonder.
 
#11
It is 'In Open Order...Right Dress' The executive word of command is the word 'dress'. I'm assuming your talking about Army Foot Drill and not RAF pole dancing...
Cheers ACAB.

If I may ask another question.

When someone has broken ranks and leaves the squad, to collect a certificate or something from the boss, is there a correct method to fall back into the ranks.
i.e march back rear of rank, halt, turn and dressing.

thanks
 
#12
That's a connundrum...

Drill manual at work too.

I am going to go with

IN OPEN ORDER, RIGHT DRESS or IN CLOSE ORDER, RIGHT DRESS.

That's what I've always done, and I don't remember any shockers in the lockers on my Drill Instrs cse in this part.

I'll go with the logic that a third of the squad wont be marching, so that word of command is excluded.
 
#13
Cheers ACAB.

If I may ask another question.

When someone has broken ranks and leaves the squad, to collect a certificate or something from the boss, is there a correct method to fall back into the ranks.
i.e march back rear of rank, halt, turn and dressing.

thanks
To leave.

Come to attention, one step back march. right turn march along rank to end of squad and up to certificate (etc)

halt, 23 up, 23 down. Attention. shake hands, receive, yes thank you great honour, ensure anything held is in left hand, attention. 23 up, 23 down, turn right (in extremis about) march off to squad, enter squad on left side, march along rank. halt at correct spot, left turn, one step forward, dress off, stand at eash.
 
#14
Usually as follows. For an award ceremony squad dressed in open order and stood properly at ease. On hearing name called out, subject springs to attention and marches out (try and have those to be awarded in the front rank) halts in front of the presenting officer and salutes. Receives award with LEFT hand and may or may not shake hand of officer. Having been told what a credit to his unit he is subject salutes, turns to his right (or about turns, though youngsters get nervous peforming an about turn in front of people and may embaress you!) Then keeping arm clutching certificate pinned to his side, marches back into the squad, halts, about turns, dresses himself and stands at ease.

If he is from the centre or rear ranks he approaches from a flank (ie: does not bimble THROUGH the ranks), marches BEHIND the rank and halts having slotted himself back into his position.

Disclaimer: Make sure you rehearse this unless you want egg on your face.
 
#15
I was taught to come to attention, fall out down the back of the rank you are in, do the boss thing, fall back into the squad from the left marker, down the back of the rank you were in.
( this applies if you are on the front rank also )

Of course you always get some howler in the middle of the squad who just marches straight through the ranks..........
 
#16
Forgot that, if space permits open order, you could march straight back in to position.

non of this fcuking chad left hand at the centre rear (above arrse) holding trophy b0llocks either. Hold in left hand, at side, don't swing.

If particularly big and unwieldly, position a man (pref hidden) on return route to remove item for safe keeping until after parade.

If the gft is massive and wil prohibit saluting when clutching, consider a proxy (miniture if funds allow) or a certificate for the guy to actually march off with, but have a table etc ready and pics with the giver and the reciever.
 
#19
SBeaver, are you on the parade or taking it ?
Polar,
I'll be taking the practise for it and then if the CSM is not back then I'll be taking the parade. It's for a promotion for one and an award for another guy so not trooping of the colour but I wanted to get it right.
 

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