Dress standards in the TA

#1
Having just completed a course with the TA, was the nearest to my Unit, I was quite shocked as a regular soldier to see some of the standards of dress of some TA soldiers. Examples were being on parade in a wool watch cap (because he'd forgotten his beret), on parade in a CW hat (because he wanted to), being on parade wearing a civvy, albeit green, softie jacket as an outer garment! The vast majority of boots didn't look to have seen polish for while either.

Once again not the majority, just a minority letting the rest down.
 
#3
Unless its the final parade on sunday afternoon its completely
unacceptable and someone needs to get a grip
 
#4
Not wanting to give too much away, 3 courses were being held at the same time with a joint parade in the morning to 1 call the 5 nominal roll, check the older ones B hadn't died D in their E sleep sort of thing.

There's a clue as to which area it may have held in. Can you see it?

The individuals concerned were all different cap badges and units.
 
#5
Loud/clear GM.

Thats gash as fcuk, my current unit would have beasted the jack ba$tards for even thinking of it. As posted already, an informal sunday parade after an ex is barely acceptable for that
 
#7
General Melchett said:
There's a clue as to which area it may have held in.
After being told not to inspect the troops as it will piss them off.... Still did it anyway .. no where near your area at all :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
#8
clownbasher said:
Why not just name the shitbags? You're talking about the Tyne-Tees or whatever the f*** they are called these days?
I don't want to name them, just make the point that as a regular soldier I thought, infact still do, that the TA was just as professional. things like this don't help give me a warm fuzzy feeling though.
 
#9
You get slack bastards all over the place-thing is was the lack of decent dress mentioned on the parades? Perhaps they should be sent to go and do the relevant parts of phase1 trg again lol.
 

FBW

Old-Salt
#10
had something similar with a recruit on her TAFs
kept forgetting her Beret on w/ends so made her wear her helmut all w/end

dont think she will forget her Beret again :twisted:
 
#11
FBW said:
had something similar with a recruit on her TAFs
kept forgetting her Beret on w/ends so made her wear her helmut all w/end

dont think she will forget her Beret again :twisted:
IMO it should be an SOP that crows wear the helmet throughout Phase 1 training - not just TAFS, either. The beret ( at least in my neck of the gobby woods ) is something to be earned, not just given out buckshee. It shows commitment and is a rite of passage.
 
#13
I have never seen that happen , either before SDR or after. Was this a Bayonet unit or something else?
 
#14
In my experience its either the recruits or the old timers that take the piss

The recruits don't know any better and the old timers have a substansial rank and dont care what anyone thinks either way.

Only last week I was told that I was not allowed to ring absentees up via phone "cos we are all volunteers"

Two weeks after chrimbo a recruit who had been through a few weekends turned up in civvies , his excuse was that his uniform was in the wash , I assumed he had had a dirty weekend "oop north" but he stupidly told me that he had nly just washed it from before christmas


I sent the ****** home
 
#15
General Melchett said:
Having just completed a course with the TA, was the nearest to my Unit, I was quite shocked as a regular soldier to see some of the standards of dress of some TA soldiers. Examples were being on parade in a wool watch cap (because he'd forgotten his beret), on parade in a CW hat (because he wanted to), being on parade wearing a civvy, albeit green, softie jacket as an outer garment! The vast majority of boots didn't look to have seen polish for while either.

Once again not the majority, just a minority letting the rest down.
GM,

I trust you had a word in someone's shell.

msr
 
#16
Very easy to critisise the TA when you don't spend much time with them. I'm currently in the JHQ area and I know of at least 1 unit that hasn't even had a parade in 3 years, because the OC doesn't want them to happen (and he walks senior officers around his area wearing a softie and with hair halfway down his back).

In the JHQ area every second person you bump into is either an officer or WO and still soldiers walk around with hands in pockets, smoking, eating & drinking.

Don't single out the TA for poor standards unless you are prepared to admit the regulars might be just as bad, because they are! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
#17
fuku said:
Very easy to critisise the TA when you don't spend much time with them. I'm currently in the JHQ area and I know of at least 1 unit that hasn't even had a parade in 3 years, because the OC doesn't want them to happen (and he walks senior officers around his area wearing a softie and with hair halfway down his back).

In the JHQ area every second person you bump into is either an officer or WO and still soldiers walk around with hands in pockets, smoking, eating & drinking.

Don't single out the TA for poor standards unless you are prepared to admit the regulars might be just as bad, because they are! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ahh but you are missing 2 important factors,

1. Its a JHQ, the realm of the chancer, strange things happen when people are taken away from regimental life

2. Officers, the biggest chancers of all, esp the the higher up the chain they go. There seems to be an unwritten rule that states the higher the rank the more eccentric you can pretend to be
 
#18
TA_sig said:
Nooo give them the crap DPM baseball cap things? Are they actually still on issue?
Yes, recruits still get them and they are/were on issue in Norway.
 
#19
My experience is that you can spot the difference between the regs and TA on exercise form a mile off. The TA are the ones wearing the issue kit, wearing their webbing, helmet and with their weapon and resperator in reach at all times. :wink:

Of course that's the likes of the arty, loggies etc, not the inf.
 
#20
I serve with a Cavalry Regiment as a WO and can state without doubt that the regiments soldiers respect rank regardless of cap badge. Lets not tar people with blanket brushes, the values and standards of OUR Army still exist and are being reinforced by AGAI 67, which, when applied properly by JNCO's and supported by seniors, works! I would question why it wasn't used in the original case stated, whether regular or part time soldiers were involved.
 
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