Dr Vince Cable Stung by Telegraph Reporters

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#2
He has not said anything that we did not already know. FFS this is a non-story if ever there was one.

I just wonder how 'undercover' these reporters were and is Cable trying to use some of that 'conventional' ammunition to get something he wants without going 'nuclear'?
 
#3
Vince Cable could 'bring the Government down' by resigning? He is a charming old chap and he has some interesting ideas (for a liberal) and has the credibility of having been an economist out in the real world before going in to Parliament, but he has rather an inflated sense of his importance if he thinks his departure would bring the Government down. He would simply be replaced by a yes-man, career politician who would do as he was told. His departure might, however, be a fatal blow for the Lib Dems (and hence also for the Tories) for the next election.
 
#4
I did like the quote "Labour said the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition was "paralysed".", as if it was any different for them; the one eyed twat Brown forced through his decisions without any real thought for government.

Surely this was to be expected though? It's a coalition, it's not like their all best mates is it? I'm not too fond of the fact that the reporters posed as his constituents either, it just smacks of entrapment.

Throwaway statements like "I have a nuclear option" just make him sound like a **** though.
 
#5
I did like the quote "Labour said the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition was "paralysed".", as if it was any different for them; the one eyed twat Brown forced through his decisions without any real thought for government.
As an aside, I note that that nasty little Marxist 'intellectual' Milliband has ordered the party faithful to stop referring to the Government as a 'coalition'. As an example, I heard the oily little tic leading by example in one of his (incredibly rare) appearances on the media referring to them as 'the Conservative-led Government' - the spin continues.

I am finding the current situation, with a slightly drippy coalition Government opposed by the left-wing 4th eleven very, very difficult. I never had any trouble, toiling under the totalitarian Blair/Brown Axis, summoning up endless bile and resentment for their treatment of this country. I need Milliband to be more visible so that I can hate him more.
 
#6
OK, lets 'go for it'. Resign. So what? Cable is an unreconstructed socialist and famous for being 'wise after the event'. Somehow, he has 'entrapped' many into believing he is a 'wise old owl'. In reality he is a 'gobby old git'. He is a danger to the economy of this nation that is already all but smashed by the awful, the appalling oaf Brown.

If Cameron has the guts to say: 'Goodbye, don't call me, I'll call you', so much the better. Bring back that man who 'felt' obliged to resign because of his sexuality.

When HSBC - a giant in world terms - is talking openly about 'leaving' UK, something has to be done.

Finally, why does the dancing twerp Cable constantly grand-stand with threats to 'bankers', and why does he never proclaim the damage done and stupidities wreaked by the inept, socio-path Brown? Why? Birds of a feather that is why.

I'll change my signature if Cameron has the guts to bin this silly old man.
 

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#7
Of course Cable is naive, it is a prerequisite for being a Limp Dim.


And yes I know there should be a diaerisis but I can't be bothered to go and look for it.
 
#8
Being embarrassed is nothing compared to how working people are struggling in the UK under the budget cuts. He'll be shielded by his generous Parliamentary pension and so on, more than now while still an MP. Discomfort is the least most pollies deserve these days.
 
#10
Well, Dear Old Doc Cable might be a Nice Old Gent. But as far as 'Economic Abilities', he is streaks ahead of the Old One Eyed Duffer. If Doc Cable does go, one is sure that Call-Me-Dave will have somebody else in mind, possibly from the Limp-Dicks side....maybe!!

Any bets on another Gen Election sometime in 2011 as the 'glue' of the Limp-Dicks as far as the Coalition comes unstuck. There are also a lot of disgruntled Tory's out in the sticks who want the Limp-Dicks gone....

Trouble is, the last thing we need is internal squabbling within the Torys, or the Limp-dicks..... I for one don't want to see Mr Ed (or whoever the Unions decide is going to replace him) back in office after their last ruinations of the UK.

If the Labour Marxist-Leninist Party of Great Britain gets back into office, it will be the TUC and Unions who will be yanking their chains to tell them "What to do" and "How to do it!"......

It will be "Goodbye to Him, and Goodnight to Us...!"
 
#11
UV: I will be very surprised if CMD indeed gets rid of Mr Cable,


Also Mr Cable has made it well known that he wants Mr Laws to return although I do agree with you this is the last thing the Coalition needs....
 
#12
I'd be surprised if Cable is either embarrased or has any notion of resigning.

He's a politician and he's just proving a point to his Conservative colleagues.
 
#13
If you think Vince is a nice old chap then he's got you fooled.

Fact is, he's a ****. He has a large spread in the New Forest (via his wife), is genuinely despised by his neighbours for being the rudest, most arrogant man in the district.

He waffles on about his years of "private sector" experience. Fact is, other than being a lifetime bureaucrat, he was chief economist at Shell for all of three years.....truly a laughing stock position even at Shell. He was never good enough to be responsible for a "profit centre" and has never made a commercial £ in his life.

He's a pontificating ****ing windbag who loves the sound of his own voice and is crack-head high on his own notions of self-importance.

One of today's true political cnuts.
 
#15
Vince Cable could 'bring the Government down' by resigning? He is a charming old chap and he has some interesting ideas (for a liberal) and has the credibility of having been an economist out in the real world before going in to Parliament, but he has rather an inflated sense of his importance if he thinks his departure would bring the Government down. He would simply be replaced by a yes-man, career politician who would do as he was told. His departure might, however, be a fatal blow for the Lib Dems (and hence also for the Tories) for the next election.
Haha haha haha.

Shows a complete lack of knowledge of what economists actually do and how they are viewed.
 
#16
Heidi Blake





Holly Watt



With these two massaging his ego, I'm a little surprised that Uncle Vince didn't go for the nuclear option there and then.

(Two thirds of the D Telegraph black ops team. Holly Watt, Heidi Blake and Robert Winnett)

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#17
has the credibility of having been an economist out in the real world
Have you studied economics at all? You do realise economics is mostly gambling and estimating? Literal guess work most of the time. Tax cuts don't always mean higher tax revenue, increased public spending doesn't always reduce unemployment, inequality and increase economic growth or induce more consumer spending.
 
#18
Have you studied economics at all? You do realise economics is mostly gambling and estimating? Literal guess work most of the time. Tax cuts don't always mean higher tax revenue, increased public spending doesn't always reduce unemployment, inequality and increase economic growth or induce more consumer spending.
No of course I haven't studied economics - we only did proper subjects at my school! I'm not sure I get the point you are making, I was simply observing that Cable has at least held down a job outside rather than being a school/university/researcher/MP/junior Minister/Cabinet Member like most of the rest of the political glitterati. I do, however, appreciate that economics is mostly guess-work but again, I'm not sure where you are going with the argument - are you arguing that no-one should attempt to work out what might be the best way of shaping economic growth? I'm not disagreeing, just interested - I am assuming that you have studied economics.
 
#19
are you arguing that no-one should attempt to work out what might be the best way of shaping economic growth? I'm not disagreeing, just interested - I am assuming that you have studied economics.
My first one is as you indicated, that economics is mostly projection, or guessing based on trends over time. As well as accepted economic theory, depending in which you focus on. The second is that being a professional economist.....I don't see how that proves anything.

After doing it as a subject in my 2 VCE years, as well as politics, war and the rest, I have continued to indoctrinate myself about economics. In a way, I don't get why people are payed to report or read out what's in-front of them. Anyone can read out stats. True, you as the economist need to understand how the theory, or trends behind them, are flowing. But those that you work for just want a summary and basics.

I mean, as a politician, what is the major balance you have to work out in your mind. Well, putting aside parenting and so on, I'd say personal beliefs vs. the political process, including party/ldr loyalty. Therefore even a well meaning politician's knowledge of economics will even more be drowned out by what they're doing. Not that much of economics is difficult. Like with politics once you decide you're a Keynesian or Friedman you're basic understanding of most parts of economics is complete. In a way you can't separate ideology or political priorities from economics, unless you do express both views of an issue. You're not likely to if you're a pollie, or what have you because you're pursuing a particular cause.

Think I'll stop there because I think I've addressed the issue adequately so far.
 
#20
My first one is as you indicated, that economics is mostly projection, or guessing based on trends over time. As well as accepted economic theory, depending in which you focus on. The second is that being a professional economist.....I don't see how that proves anything.

After doing it as a subject in my 2 VCE years, as well as politics, war and the rest, I have continued to indoctrinate myself about economics. In a way, I don't get why people are payed to report or read out what's in-front of them. Anyone can read out stats. True, you as the economist need to understand how the theory, or trends behind them, are flowing. But those that you work for just want a summary and basics.

I mean, as a politician, what is the major balance you have to work out in your mind. Well, putting aside parenting and so on, I'd say personal beliefs vs. the political process, including party/ldr loyalty. Therefore even a well meaning politician's knowledge of economics will even more be drowned out by what they're doing. Not that much of economics is difficult. Like with politics once you decide you're a Keynesian or Friedman you're basic understanding of most parts of economics is complete. In a way you can't separate ideology or political priorities from economics, unless you do express both views of an issue. You're not likely to if you're a pollie, or what have you because you're pursuing a particular cause.

Think I'll stop there because I think I've addressed the issue adequately so far.
I call WAAAH
 
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