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DPRK Conducts Another Nuclear Test.

Mr_Fingerz

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BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking 41m41 minutes ago
Magnitude 5.1 'earthquake' detected near North Korean nuclear test site http://bbc.in/1ZMZ5Ry

North Korean nuclear test suspected as 'artificial earthquake' detected

"An earthquake near a known nuclear testing site in North Korea that appears to have been artificially made has been detected by several monitoring agencies.

The United States Geological Service reported a 5.1 magnitude quake on Wednesday that South Korea said was 49km (30 miles) from the Punggye-ri site where the North has conducted nuclear tests in the past.

An official from the South Korean meteorological administration said: “We suspect a man-made earthquake and are analysing the scale and epicentre of the quake with the geoscience and mineral resource institute of South Korea.”

While the USGS put the depth of the earthquake at 10km, the South Korean agency said it was near the surface. The earthquake was detected just after 10am Seoul time (1am GMT)."

Looks like Fatboy didn't get the memo about playing nice.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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There seems to be a school of thought that Fatboy may be playing fast and loose with the verité. From Yr Grauniad.

John Carlson, the former head of Australia’s nuclear safeguards and non-proliferation Office, said the veracity of the claim would be difficult to determine “until we can analyse any gases emitted, and it could take several days for those to show up, if it all”.

He said it would be a “major challenge” for the North Korean regime to develop a thermonuclear weapon, particularly a miniaturised version, which required even greater expertise.

“Their claim would be far more convincing if it was a larger size,” he said.

Carlson, who headed Australia’s safeguards office for more than two decades, said it was possible Pyongyang had actually produced a lower-yield “boosted explosion”, in which the hydrogen isotope tritium undergoes partial fusion, allowing them to describe the device as a hydrogen bomb.

“I think it’s feasible that they’ve done that and they’re claiming that they’ve done more,” he said.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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There's lots of stamping of feet going on:

"France has now condemned the nuclear test and has called for a “strong reaction from the international community”, president François Hollande’s office said in a statement.

The statement said the claims of a hydrogen bomb detonation were “an unacceptable violation of [UN] security council resolutions”.

South Korea
President Park Geun-Hye called the test a “grave provocation” at an emergency meeting of the country’s national security council.

“The test is not only a grave provocation to our national security but also a threat to our future … and a strong challenge to international peace and stability,” she said, calling for strong sanctions on Pyongyang.

In an earlier statement, Seoul said it would “take all necessary measures including additional sanctions by the UN security council … so that the North will pay the price for the nuclear test”.

Japan
“The nuclear test that was carried out by North Korea is a serious threat to the safety of our nation and we absolutely cannot tolerate this,” prime minister Shinzo Abe said in Tokyo.

“This clearly violates UN security council resolutions and is a grave challenge against international efforts for non-proliferation,” he said, adding his country would seek to coordinate efforts among UN members to tackle North Korea’s actions.

United States
In Washington, the White House said it could not yet confirm the test, but vowed to “respond appropriately to any and all North Korean provocations”. It said the US “will not accept [North Korea] as a nuclear state”.

China
There was no immediate response from China, but in a rgain)eport from Pyongyang, the official Xinhua news service said that the “test apparently runs counter to relevant UN resolutions” and “is set to cause repercussions”.

Australia
Foreign minister Julie Bishop said her country “condemns in the strongest possible terms” the test, which “confirms North Korea’s status as a rogue state and a continuing threat to international peace and security”, adding that Canberra would express its concerns to Pyongyang directly and call for stronger UN sanctions.

United Kingdom
Foreign secretary Philip Hammond said: “If North Korean H-bomb test reports are true, it is a grave breach of UN [security council] resolutions and a provocation which I condemn without reservation.”

(c) Yr Grauniad (again)
 
I think by now even the Chinese are putting their heads in their hands and muttering "for f*ck sake".
 

Mr_Fingerz

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I think by now even the Chinese are putting their heads in their hands and muttering "for f*ck sake".
You can say that again.

This may well be the diplomatic equivalent of "Are you out of your ******* minds?"

We’re (The Guardian) expecting official reaction from Beijing soon.

Meanwhile, Xinhua, the official news agency, has published a Chinese-language editorialon the test.

Christy Yao in our Beijing bureau has translated some of the key lines:

The test of a nuclear bomb by North Korea runs counter to the relevant UN resolutions and the internationally-backed Korean peninsula denuclearisation efforts.

It is not good for anyone for there not to be peace on the Korean peninsula. Any act that disrupts stability in north-eastern Asia is undesirable and unwise.

All relevant parties should refrain from unilateral steps that are detrimental to regional peace and stability.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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Meanwhile a man who knows about stuff has been spreading gloom, doom, and despondency.

The UK’s former ambassador to North Korea has described the nuclear test as “deeply worrying” and warned that Pyongyang could launch a nuclear strike.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme John Everard, said: “Anything that produces a seismic shock of 5.1 is dangerous ... an explosion of that size is quite enough to wipe out a city, and that of course is deeply worrying.”

Everard warned that Pyongyang’s leaders believed they could survive a nuclear counterstrike by sheltering in tunnels.

He said: “North Korea has a defensive tunnel system that makes the Tora Bora look like a child’s play pen in comparison. If they believe they can hide away in their tunnels and survive a nuclear counterstrike, the possibility that they could launch a nuclear first strike remains.”


Asked whether he believed that North Korea would seriously considered a nuclear strike, Everard said: “Yes, because the North Koreans have a deep sense of victimhood – that they are aggrieved by the international community. They also have a warrior tradition which would mean that they would probably prefer to go down fighting rather than be absorbed by South Korea.”

Everard also claimed that relations between China and North Korea have become so strained over nuclear weapons that Beijing could side with the international community in condemning the test. “It looks like the China/North Korea love in has soured very quickly. The Chinese have said they will cooperate with the international community in the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula and I have a hunch, that when the UN security council meets later today that, we will see a rather different Chinese attitude from the one that we seen in the past.”
 
The N Korean TV broadcaster who announced the launch looked like one of Kim's uncles in a pink dress. Is it still the pantomime season up North?
 
Meanwhile a man who knows about stuff has been spreading gloom, doom, and despondency.

The UK’s former ambassador to North Korea has described the nuclear test as “deeply worrying” and warned that Pyongyang could launch a nuclear strike.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme John Everard, said: “Anything that produces a seismic shock of 5.1 is dangerous ... an explosion of that size is quite enough to wipe out a city, and that of course is deeply worrying.”

Everard warned that Pyongyang’s leaders believed they could survive a nuclear counterstrike by sheltering in tunnels.

He said: “North Korea has a defensive tunnel system that makes the Tora Bora look like a child’s play pen in comparison. If they believe they can hide away in their tunnels and survive a nuclear counterstrike, the possibility that they could launch a nuclear first strike remains.”


Asked whether he believed that North Korea would seriously considered a nuclear strike, Everard said: “Yes, because the North Koreans have a deep sense of victimhood – that they are aggrieved by the international community. They also have a warrior tradition which would mean that they would probably prefer to go down fighting rather than be absorbed by South Korea.”

Everard also claimed that relations between China and North Korea have become so strained over nuclear weapons that Beijing could side with the international community in condemning the test. “It looks like the China/North Korea love in has soured very quickly. The Chinese have said they will cooperate with the international community in the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula and I have a hunch, that when the UN security council meets later today that, we will see a rather different Chinese attitude from the one that we seen in the past.”


The notion of Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't apply to psychopaths a leadership who thinks they can hide in tunnels and don't give a flying fcuk about the welfare of their people.

This development is serious, very serious which is why China is coming down hard....
 
I won't post a Daily Mail link for fear of smiting, but they are carrying stills from YTN news showing this as an atmospheric test and quite a spectacularly large one... or the use of unattributed stock footage!

Edit: If (IF!) an air or surface burst, it sure would explain the lower than expected seismicity, but would be a tad obvious to anyone with the right satellites...
 
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What happened to the other thread?

But just to reiterate, is the world going to stand by and let another country join the nuclear club, which is apparently banned for them to do so. This in turn will send a message to Iran and every other cnut with the same idea....

So why not send a message to everyone who wants in, this is what happens when you are not invited.

And if sanctions were supposed to prevent this, who needs a slapping until the UN rescind that sanctions dont work but perhaps Cruise Missiles and B2s will? Because either they dont work, or someone is circumventing them and needs a slap too.

Slapped with a few thousand pounds of smart bomb.
 

Ritch

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DPRK don't have much imagination when it comes to road names.

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That is gen by the way! :)
 
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