Downing Streets army beef

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Downing Street's army beef

Michael Crick | 19:52 PM, Friday, 17 July 2009
Relations between Gordon Brown and the head of Army General Richard Dannatt are terrible right now - perhaps worse than they have ever been between a Prime Minister and one of his top generals.

People in Downing Street are especially angry because Gordon Brown's instinctive reaction last weekend, after all the recent deaths in Afghanistan, was to get on a plane on Sunday, and go to visit British troops in Helmand to show his sympathy and solidarity.

I'm told, however, that Sir Richard and his colleagues advised the Prime Minister that whilst the Army had no problem with Mr Brown visiting Afghanistan at some point this summer, it would be "too dangerous" simply for the PM to make an unplanned, spur-of-the-moment trip.
More on the link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/michaelcrick/2009/07/terrible_relations_between_no.html
 
#2
Skynet said:

I'm told, however, that Sir Richard and his colleagues advised the Prime Minister that whilst the Army had no problem with Mr Brown visiting Afghanistan at some point this summer, it would be "too dangerous" simply for the PM to make an unplanned, spur-of-the-moment trip.


In other words Dannatt said "Fcuk off Cyclops,the troops hate you and I wont subject them to more of your grotesque showboating".

Or at least thats what I think the subtext is.
 
#3
More likely, Dannet told him that there were no helicopters available to take the one eyed c unt around and he would have to take his chances in a vehicle. And in fact a snatch landrover was being polished up as they spoke, would the one eyed t wat mind driving himself due to a shortage of staff?
 
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eodmatt said:
More likely, Dannet told him that there were no helicopters available to take the one eyed c unt around and he would have to take his chances in a vehicle. And in fact a snatch landrover was being polished up as they spoke, would the one eyed t wat mind driving himself due to a shortage of staff?
That's exactly what he should have said.
 
#6
Archimedes said:
Mildly OT:

perhaps worse than they have ever been between a Prime Minister and one of his top generals.
He's not heard of David Lloyd George and Douglas Haig, then?
Of course not silly boy, that would require some understanding and knowledge of history - not exactly a known attribute of the modern journo now is it?

Mind you, the comparison is not out of place - it must be a close run thing as to who is the worst PM in (relatively) modern history.
 
#7
'Lost-Jock' make no mistake, Brown wins the 'Worst Prime Minister Ever' award by a country mile from his nearest rival, and close friend, Bliar.
 

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#8
Archimedes said:
Mildly OT:

perhaps worse than they have ever been between a Prime Minister and one of his top generals.
He's not heard of David Lloyd George and Douglas Haig, then?
Surely that should read 'perhaps worse than they have ever been between a Prime Minister and one of the Queens top generals'.
 
#9
The amount of helecopters to transport Cyclops around Hellmund would be a minimum of five aircraft
one for VIP, A spare in case of crash ,shoot down.Two AH 64 Escorts, at least one other for all browns flunkys. Where would they all come from?, unless he does what the Septics do with the President, take half a dozen with him loaded into C17s but then we only have six of them.
 

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#10
Skynet said:
Downing Street's army beef

I'm told, however, that Sir Richard and his colleagues advised the Prime Minister that whilst the Army had no problem with Mr Brown visiting Afghanistan at some point this summer, it would be "too dangerous" simply for the PM to make an unplanned, spur-of-the-moment trip.
More on the link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/michaelcrick/2009/07/terrible_relations_between_no.html
No no no

Tell him it's great at that time of year, go on Gordon the troops would love to see you (he's deluded enough to believe they do want to see him)
Let him arrive in front of the worlds media
Then make a great show of showing him to a snatch or a viking
When he protests say "well I'll ring the Yanks and see what they can do"
Nice pictures of PM and gang of fools getting on a yank Helicopter

Or take him to a platoon house then tell him he'll have to stay the night as int say it's to dangerous to travel
Que nice pictures of cyclops sleeping on the floor and panicing once all hell breaks loose
This could be aided by a big sign on the gates saying Gordon Browns here
 

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#12
'Gordon Brown's instinctive reaction last weekend, after all the recent deaths in Afghanistan, was to get on a plane on Sunday, and go to visit British troops in Helmand to show his sympathy and solidarity.'

when the cnut wont even show his face at servicemen's funerals in this country?? I smell something fishy... and I'm not talking about the contents of Baldrick's apple crumble.

seriously, does even the beeb think anyone will swallow that?
 
#13
Feck off.

We don't want the fat buffon out here.

We were already pissed off that B-Liar came out and had to take some time out of our very busy day to show that tw@t around the place.

Brownring would shut us down for a day with his bloating behind and hangers on wanting to touch everything they could, then leave my poor lads to fix the feckers again.

Although we could have a word with the RAF and organize a surprise drop off in the heart of "the Red Death".....walk out of that one.........
 
#14
insert-coin-here said:
Skynet said:

I'm told, however, that Sir Richard and his colleagues advised the Prime Minister that whilst the Army had no problem with Mr Brown visiting Afghanistan at some point this summer, it would be "too dangerous" simply for the PM to make an unplanned, spur-of-the-moment trip.


In other words Dannatt said "Fcuk off Cyclops,the troops hate you and I wont subject them to more of your grotesque showboating".

Or at least thats what I think the subtext is.


Shame. Should have let the barstard go and when he got there, popped him an a Yankee helicopter for a spin, he wouldn't know the difference - what a media coup that would have been.

Then he could have a ride in a Snatch just to round things off. An unfortunate ND at the loading bay would be good too.... now I'm dreaming...
 
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Put him in a Viking......vehicle that is, for a tour of Helmand-shire....then every one could play "route roulette"....easiest way to an early election...
 
#16
PS, where's Guy Fawkes when you need him - sorry, Parliaments in recess, so we've got a month or so to track him down!
 
#17
I imagine the chances of a 'frag' type incedent, must be quite high...............................................


How many chaps would be prepared to 'life' in nick, out in 15?
 
#18
More names to add to the "list of shame"...

The Mail has learned that a two-pronged strategy to discredit attacks on Labour’s handling of the Afghan war was launched more than a week ago.

The first strand was to insinuate that General Dannatt is a closet Tory and the second to attack the two opposition parties for using his comments for political gain.
During defence questions on Monday, a succession of Labour MPs got to their feet to make that point, prominent among them.
Tom Watson, who was until last month a central figure in Gordon Brown’s Cabinet Office communications team.
MPs familiar with the behind-the-scenes activities say David Crausby, a Labour member of the Defence Select Committee, was ‘leaned on’ to give an on-the-record interview complaining about General Dannatt’s behaviour.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-briefings-claims-smeared.html#ixzz0LcNF0ub1

See this as well:

http://tvotr.blogspot.com/2009/07/hang-traitors.html
 
#19
jinxy said:
I imagine the chances of a 'frag' type incedent, must be quite high...............................................


How many chaps would be prepared to 'life' in nick, out in 15?
My...that kind of talk here in the States about our Executive would get you a rapid interview with the Secret Service. Coffee would not be served...

You must have rather different laws on your side.

I'm not passing judgement on the words spoken, just making an observation.
 
#20
Bruin and his spinners in Afghanistan??? Their mantra is ''do as I say,not as I do''.Can you see this cowardly lot experiencing the conditions that they have imposed upon our military in Afghanistan? Not a chance-they're too busy filling in their expense claims.As a group NuIiabor is truely,utterly shocking.
 

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