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Doss bags, sleeping mats, etc

Mav

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Looking for some advice on sleeping kit set up - I'm helping out my local CCF so need to get set up myself.

Bivi bag - seems like you can pick up ex-issue gore tex bags for around £40... should I be looking for something better? Always seemed pretty good when I was issued them...
Sleeping mat - I use a Therma-rest for camping... but it's a pain in the arrse to get all the air out to pack it, and I don't fancy getting a puncture. I would've thought a regular foam mat would've been more hardwearing and easy to pack fast (particularly the folding ones)... am I missing something?
Doss bag - seems like everyone raves about the snugpak softies... Is a Softie 9 enough for the UK? Using a mat and inside a bivi, I would've thought so... Anyone have experience to share?

Feel free to bring on the abuse for helping out my CCF :)
 
#2
I've got a softie 9 and just come of ex. No dramas. It got to around freezing and I had no issues at -4C
Issued bivvy and cut down foam roll mat. I'm mechanised at the mo so wasn't dug in..
 
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#5
I've got a new one somewhere, but I still use the old one. I'm always on or near wagons or in a crew shelter so being waterproof isn't uppermost. It gets coverd in exhaust soot/oil etc. seems a shame to wreck the new one!
New one looks the same materiel though.
 
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cloudbuster

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#6
A sleeping-bag liner gives you a little more flexibility with the Softie 9 if the temp drops, plus the usual caveat of changing into dry kit before dossing-down.
 

Mav

Old-Salt
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I've got a new one somewhere, but I still use the old one. I'm always on or near wagons or in a crew shelter so being waterproof isn't uppermost. It gets coverd in exhaust soot/oil etc. seems a shame to wreck the new one!
New one looks the same materiel though.
Thanks!

No its not and the new is mtp I use a softie zero Sleeper Zero Camo Sleeping Bags - Sleeper Zero Camo Code Green - Sleeper Zero Camo Military - Leading Suppliers of Clothing & Sleepingbags - snugpak.com its not the best but it cost about £40 and in the winter ( any thing below 5 ) I also where a softie jkt and trousers.
Not too worried about it being MTP - don't think I need to worry about trying to look ally ;-)

Thanks for the link to the doss bag - looks like it packs pretty small.
 
#8
Looking for some advice on sleeping kit set up - I'm helping out my local CCF so need to get set up myself.

Bivi bag - seems like you can pick up ex-issue gore tex bags for around £40... should I be looking for something better? Always seemed pretty good when I was issued them...
Sleeping mat - I use a Therma-rest for camping... but it's a pain in the arrse to get all the air out to pack it, and I don't fancy getting a puncture. I would've thought a regular foam mat would've been more hardwearing and easy to pack fast (particularly the folding ones)... am I missing something?
Doss bag - seems like everyone raves about the snugpak softies... Is a Softie 9 enough for the UK? Using a mat and inside a bivi, I would've thought so... Anyone have experience to share?

Feel free to bring on the abuse for helping out my CCF :)
A softie 9 would be fine for cadets in the UK, though I would prefer to use the issued kit same as them. (cadets, not THEM)
That DPM bivvie bag looked like an issue one which (if it is) is more than adequate. also, I was issued a blow up self inflating type roll mat, used it once and reverted back to the foam type. quicker, easier, no valve to fall out and the issued foam type cover the whole body. blow up ones only the head and torso, giving me bloody cold legs. flippin devils work. hope that helps
 
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cloudbuster

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#9
......... blow up ones only the head and torso, giving me bloody cold legs. flippin devils work. hope that helps
Sounds like you had the short Thermarest, which, I agree, isn't much use. OTOH, the standard one I've had for about 15 years has never gone down on me. :)
 

Mav

Old-Salt
#10
A softie 9 would be fine for cadets in the UK, though I would prefer to use the issued kit same as them. (cadets, not THEM)
That DPM bivvie bag looked like an issue one which (if it is) is more than adequate. also, I was issued a blow up self inflating type roll mat, used it once and reverted back to the foam type. quicker, easier, no valve to fall out and the issued foam type cover the whole body. blow up ones only the head and torso, giving me bloody cold legs. flippin devils work. hope that helps
I don't think we have plenty of kit so I'm trying to avoid taking stuff that would prevent a cadet being issued. Good to hear that somebody else thinks the foam mats are much easier to live with.

Sounds like you had the short Thermarest, which, I agree, isn't much use. OTOH, the standard one I've had for about 15 years has never gone down on me. :)
But isn't it a pain in the arse to pack up?

A sleeping-bag liner gives you a little more flexibility with the Softie 9 if the temp drops, plus the usual caveat of changing into dry kit before dossing-down.
Sleeping in wet kit does indeed suck
 
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cloudbuster

Guest
#11
But isn't it a pain in the arse to pack up?
Takes up less space than a full-length roll-mat, and doesn't soak-up water, (unlike a roll-mat). Plus, with a little effort, (I was going to put something about having got your breath back after chasing the kiddies) you can double it's effective thickness.
 

Mav

Old-Salt
#12
Takes up less space than a full-length roll-mat, and doesn't soak-up water, (unlike a roll-mat). Plus, with a little effort, (I was going to put something about having got your breath back after chasing the kiddies) you can double it's effective thickness.
Hadn't thought of the water absorption - thanks.

As for the kiddie chasing... I'm surprised it took this long to get a comment!
 
#14
Softy 9, therma rest and issue bivi bag has worked for me for a few years now, however this time of year I also use a doss bag liner.
 
#16
Yet another vote for the softy - they're obviously doing something right!
Softy's are the nuts and so are there jackets and apparel, But now were on the subject of softy's i bet you wont have one for long with all them cadets running about......Sorry i couldnt resist.
 

Mav

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Softy's are the nuts and so are there jackets and apparel, But now were on the subject of softy's i bet you wont have one for long with all them cadets running about......Sorry i couldnt resist.
Thanks - and as for the joke, you get 10 out of 10 for effort :p

Also Mav a few of the adult cadet leaders that i have had the pleasure of working with normally doss in tents.
Sure... if you're not going for a bimble. But if you actually plan on getting somewhere to set up a platoon harbour, a tent isn't really going to be an option...
 
#19
Sure... if you're not going for a bimble. But if you actually plan on getting somewhere to set up a platoon harbour, a tent isn't really going to be an option...[/QUOTE]

Point taken.
 

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