Doss bag

daywalker

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Kit Reviewer
#1
Gents, i have tried google on this but have come up with about 101 different answers. What is the lifespan of your average Synthetic doss bag that has seen a fair amount of use in the military arena?
 

daywalker

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Kit Reviewer
#8
Not sure why you are asking the question though.
I have had my softie 12 now for 7 years, after speaking to some outdoor Jedi type blokes they informed me that doss bags do have a lifespan and after so long they lose a degree of there filling/ability to to provide warmth. Since none were in the military they couldn't really help me on what ''normal use'' is, I was wondering if anyone here has the knowledge of both worlds to help shed some light on the matter.
 

Pararegtom

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Book Reviewer
#10
I have had my softie 12 now for 7 years, after speaking to some outdoor Jedi type blokes they informed me that doss bags do have a lifespan and after so long they lose a degree of there filling/ability to to provide warmth. Since none were in the military they couldn't really help me on what ''normal use'' is, I was wondering if anyone here has the knowledge of both worlds to help shed some light on the matter.
DW My green maggot lasted me 12Years from day 1 Bn -to demob , having done loads of tours. had a few holes and a curly wurly in it when handed in. does that help your research.
 
#11
I used my Bufallo sleeping system for over 12 years before some **** stole it. The inner was great for summer, the outer alone was good for spring and autumn, the two together with a goretex bivvybag served me well in -36C in Norway.
 
#12
Still have - and use - the green maggot replacement; the "sleeping system"; 4 season synthetic sleeping bag, goretex bivvy bag, and compression sack. Still going strong after, jesus, I cant remember how many years. At least 16 years, quite possibly 21+. And room enough, just, for two :)
 
#13
I have had my softie 12 now for 7 years, after speaking to some outdoor Jedi type blokes they informed me that doss bags do have a lifespan and after so long they lose a degree of there filling/ability to to provide warmth. Since none were in the military they couldn't really help me on what ''normal use'' is, I was wondering if anyone here has the knowledge of both worlds to help shed some light on the matter.
Although your question initially concerned synthetic 'maggots' its still worth considering that bags made of down last longer than synthetic materials. Particulaly down from 'geese' raised in very cold conditions.

Canada Goose Down, Hungarian Goose Down, Siberian Goose Down... Which Is Better? (Discover the shocking TRUTH)

Rab do excellent down bags here in the UK Rab | Expedition 1000 | Expedition | Sleeping Bags | Products

Or for a cheaper but still decent down alternative ... PipeDream 600 Lightweight Mountaineering Sleeping Bag - Camping Outdoor Gear Shop - Alpkit

As you know down compacts more than synthetic equivalents but turns to 'mush' when wet.:-(

Ajunilak have the reputation for making the toughest and most long lasting synthetic bags. A classic. Ajungilak Kompakt 3-Season - Synthetic Sleeping Bags - Mammut

Softie do a decent alternative IMO ... Softie Chrysalis Autumn Sleeping Bags - Softie Chrysalis Autumn Outdoor - Leading Suppliers of Clothing & Sleepingbags - snugpak.com

Hope that helps?
 

jarrod248

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Gallery Guru
#14
**** down bags and the spikes from the feathers. Them issue bags were shite and the reason I bought a buffalo bag. Wet down bags are great for keeping in heat.
 
#15
**** down bags and the spikes from the feathers. Them issue bags were shite and the reason I bought a buffalo bag. Wet down bags are great for keeping in heat.
The old issue down bags where made, I believe, of cheap Chinese duck down and crumbled to dust very quickly leaving the spikes you speak of. Many modern down bags as I pointed out have a much higher quality down with a higher 'fill factor.' Many have a waterproof breathable outer shell negating the need for a separate bivi bag. The buffalo pile, great in the day is really rather bulky for the insulation you get. For a 'synthetic' bag these days I'd probably go for something like this ... Buy your SNUGPAK Code Green Softie 3 Merlin, 2 season Sleeping Bag from Surplus and Adventure secure online store
 

Grumblegrunt

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Book Reviewer
#16
the pile/hollowfibre/down in anybag will degrade over time losing loft and the pertex covers will get manky but most mil spec bags will carry on until they are a festering mess.

I've got a 20 year old softie, 2 25 year old buffalo bags and some down bags 15 or so years old and all are still good bags with more life in them yet you just dont expect to be able to sleep out in -20 in them. the oldest bag I have is a 72 patt french bag which is still comfy having a cotton inner, the rubberised base is a bit iffy but working, no idea how old my german sniper mk2 is.

the old 58 chicken feather bags did work even if they were better suited to growing tomatoes in, the artic version had more down in it. I did have a surplus waffen SS doss bag once and something with dutch lacing.
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
#17
The old issue down bags where made, I believe, of cheap Chinese duck down and crumbled to dust very quickly leaving the spikes you speak of. Many modern down bags as I pointed out have a much higher quality down with a higher 'fill factor.' Many have a waterproof breathable outer shell negating the need for a separate bivi bag. The buffalo pile, great in the day is really rather bulky for the insulation you get. For a 'synthetic' bag these days I'd probably go for something like this ... Buy your SNUGPAK Code Green Softie 3 Merlin, 2 season Sleeping Bag from Surplus and Adventure secure online store
I imagine the new stuff can't be chucked in the washer like buffalo bags.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
The old issue down bags where made, I believe, of cheap Chinese duck down and crumbled to dust very quickly leaving the spikes you speak of. Many modern down bags as I pointed out have a much higher quality down with a higher 'fill factor.' Many have a waterproof breathable outer shell negating the need for a separate bivi bag. The buffalo pile, great in the day is really rather bulky for the insulation you get. For a 'synthetic' bag these days I'd probably go for something like this ... Buy your SNUGPAK Code Green Softie 3 Merlin, 2 season Sleeping Bag from Surplus and Adventure secure online store
issue bags were chicken feather hence the rancid stink, artic bags were down, though all bags are a mix as you need feather to maintain the loft. nowa days pretty much all down is chinese and is why its cheaper.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
I imagine the new stuff can't be chucked in the washer like buffalo bags.
regular washing wrecked the pertex though, down bags can be washed in any soapy solution but the hard part is drying them as they recomend a commercial dryer and a tennis ball or trainer to break the clumps up. otherwise it takes days on the washing line bashing the clumps every few hours. 58 bags were dry cleaned if you were brave enough to send your long bag away hoping a short one wouldnt be the return.

ripped one from tip to tail once just to try and get it exchanged for a new one - they repaired it. then we realised a box of victoria biscuits was the key :)
 

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