DONT YA JUST LOVE CIVVY EMPLOYERS

#1
Just been given a Verbal Warning for telling a Customer's Rep to Fcuk Off last week.

Fcuking Knob Jockey is an Expeditor for a very well know Oil Company, big yellow signs with red lettering, sh@ll, shall we say.

I was asked to give him some information, as I was relaying the information, he stopped my dead and called me a BullSh1tter or words to that effect (definately used the word BullSh1t), at which point, I stood up, and rather doing the natural thing and walking round the table and knocking fcuk out of him, I walked to wards the door, at which point he said something else, of which I cannot recall, to which I half turned and said "oh fcuk off".

Now I should not have retaliated, just walked out and informed the powers that be as to what he said, but there you go, it was out, I certaily couldn't put it back.

About 10 minutes later, I was asked, nay, ordered to apologise to him, as to which I asked if he was willing to withdraw his remark, obviously he wasn't so I politely refused to apologise.

Gets into work Monday morning, called into the HR Manager's Office, oh by the way, we're going to discipline you for using offensive language to a customer, anything you want to say?, yeah, I was provoked, I defended myself, and I would do it again (defend myself that is).

Was expecting a written warning or simthing similar, but all I got was the Verbal, the only question I asked was "are we going to complain to his employer about the way he spoke to me during the meeting", you can guess what the answer was, so I then asked if it was acceptable, him calling into question my integrity, and they said yes. Part of the Disciplinary is for me to write a grovelling letter of apology to him "sorry sir, didn't mean it sir" etc, to which I have also refused, so now I've got to go on an Anger Management Course. It didn't help that I burst out laughing when she said that, all I could think of was Jack Nicholson.

Am I wrong?
 
#4
There is one bonus, I don't have to sit and look at his fcuking grid anymore, he won't deal with me. The nasty Ex-Squaddie scared him. I'm now banned from leaving my desk when he's in the Building.
 
#7
Unfortunately I need the cash, although I do have something else in the Pipeline, so like a good little boy, I'm gonna just sit here and smile like a good house trained puppy, then turn on the fcukers as soon as I leave.
 

Cutaway

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#8
FredWest said:
There is one bonus, I don't have to sit and look at his fcuking grid anymore, he won't deal with me. The nasty Ex-Squaddie scared him. I'm now banned from leaving my desk when he's in the Building.
Get the message to him that he must report to your desk when he arrives and before he leaves.
How else are you gong to know when this fcukwit is around ?
 
#9
Just go for the toilet break when he's around. I was told that today I had to be at my desk from 10 to 1, my lunch doesn't finish until 1pm, I don't usually go out, but I did today, came back at 5 to 1, to see him pulling into the car park, 15 minutes later, the guys he came to see went to meet him, he was sat in his car wating for 1pm to come and go.
 
#11
Nah You failed my son... I'm afraid to say it but:

You should have flew across the desk and leathered him with a full pack of printer paper. Then proceeded to fill in everybody else in the office. Then and only then would you have total respect. Upon leaving you should have spilt petrol (prefarably Asda's own as its cheaper) all over the office then sparked up a fag and said "Hey punks, did you ever hear that smoking can be hazardous to those around you" flicked it jumped on a harley and watched the blast go off in your rear view mirror as you jump out of the window on it. Grab on to a helecopter and flew off with Highway to hell playing in the background.

Or something similar.
 
#12
Bad_Crow said:
Nah You failed my son... I'm afraid to say it but:

You should have flew across the desk and leathered him with a full pack of printer paper. Then proceeded to fill in everybody else in the office. Then and only then would you have total respect. Upon leaving you should have spilt petrol (prefarably Asda's own as its cheaper) all over the office then sparked up a fag and said "Hey punks, did you ever hear that smoking can be hazardous to those around you" flicked it jumped on a harley and watched the blast go off in your rear view mirror as you jump out of the window on it. Grab on to a helecopter and flew off with Highway to hell playing in the background.

Or something similar.
Are you on this planet?
 
#14
I'm dead lucky with my employers - I put a bloke on the ground a few months ago for threatening me with a stick. he complained to my boss, told him I would be getting lawyers' letter, hearing from the police etc. My boss used very polite Civil Service language to tell him to Fkuc Right Off, and Stay There. Top.

Previous boss in the same organisation would have been like a rabbit in headlights, no way would i not have been through the full disciplinary including suspension. Luck of the draw.


I think FredWest behaved admirably. There's far too much poncing about re. bad language and robust interpersonal relationships in CivvieStrase. I blame the decline of lunchtime drinking, it was a man's world when everyone had 2 or 3 at midday. :)
 
#15
you should hav played the "my human rights have been violated card" how can he call you names and nothing be done to him, he should not be allowed back int he building due to the trauma of you having been disciplined. then you could have the next 2 years off with stress before the tribunual for constructive dismissal.Oh wait your an ex -squaddies so you will just whinge and get on with it..good drills
 
#16
Ask to see the evidence of the investigation that they (HR) carried out into the incident. Did the fcuker send a letter of complaint? If so ask to see it. You have to be given the opportunity to defend yourself. If they refuse to give it to you, hit them with an application for disclosure under the Data Protection Act (Not the Freedom of Information) any email, letter or anything that references you in this matter has to be disclosed.

Then, if they haven't investigated the incident correctly or followed the correct procedure, start a Grievance Procedure against the HR muppet for fcuking you about and tarnishing your good name.

HR cnuts, I hate 'em.
 
#17
It's quite funny really, there's something in the pipeline about Dignity at Work, where I, as an employee are entitled to be treated with respect, dignity and courtesy. This not only includes feloow Co-Workers, but also Customers and their Agents.

Utter tosh. The HR Lady is quite a good friend, I actually interviewed her for her oroginal job, really good girl, followin orders, had a good laugh with her about it. It was the other Wench that was the pain in the Arrse, complaining that now, they're gonna have to send someone else to deal with him, overstetched, over worked, welcome to my world
 
G

Goku

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#18
Good going telling that tw@t to fcuk off, I would say you held back, stronger language was called for.
Again good going for standing up to HR but you shouldn’t accept being told to stay at your desk or that anger management course.
Threaten to take your employer to court for breaching your human rights, you don’t honestly believe they can force you to stay at your desk and not let you go for toilet, smoke, and lunch breaks?
I’d refuse the anger management course if I were you as well, but if you do go then rip the piss out of it and let us know what happened.
 
#19
I remember once after handbags a dawn, Some mong that I worked with demanded an apology, I really couldn't be arrsed with warnings, wrist slappings ect. I aggreed to terry fcukwitts demand. So before the appointed meeting for hugs kisses and handshakes, I made sure that I had a quick w@nk and a dump. The use of toilet paper was limited and Hands were not washed.

Marmite anyone?
 

The_Duke

LE
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#20
Cpl_ripper said:
I remember once after handbags a dawn, Some mong that I worked with demanded an apology, I really couldn't be arrsed with warnings, wrist slappings ect. I aggreed to terry fcukwitts demand. So before the appointed meeting for hugs kisses and handshakes, I made sure that I had a quick w@nk and a dump. The use of toilet paper was limited and Hands were not washed.

Marmite anyone?
Fred - had the pleasure of a similar situation last year. All points made valid, but would suggest:
1. Attend the anger management course and smile sweetly. My refusal to attend was used as evidence against me at the subsequent disciplinary as showing an unwillingness to address issues.
2. Keep detailed notes of all issues. If they do not do the same, yours will take priority in any hearing.
3. As stated, demand copies of any evidence or file notes relating to you. This was how I proved that the complaint I was suspended for was logged 15 minutes after I was suspended!
4. The whistleblower defence works well. You claim that you were managed out becaused the company was worried that you would let people know about any illegal/immoral or dubious actions on their part.

A combination of these turned my incident from dismissal with no pay to resignation with 3 months tax free and agreed references for any future employer.

Duke
 

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