Donald Rumsfeld's dodgy signatures

#1
So whats the crack with Donald Rumsfeld getting a machine to write his signature of the 'sorry your son is dead, love the US Governmnet' letters. What a fcuking discrace. I wonder if Geoff (or whoever sends them) signs his letters?
 
#3
I could probably rustle up TCH's signature electronically if you ask nicely.

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#4
msr said:
I could probably rustle up TCH's signature electronically if you ask nicely.

msr
That would look nice on an ARRSE mug: as endorsed by Geoff 'TCH' Hoon :D
 
#5
I know it is disrespectful, but if you think about it, how many KIA's have the USA suffered in Iraq. I would say well over 1000. :(
Thats a lot of signatures for 1 man to make.

And yes, i realise the irony that his signature (along with GWB) sent them to their death, therefore he SHOULD have the decency to sign them personally.

agent smith
 
#6
Thats a lot of signatures for 1 man to make.
About two a day since the war kicked off. No excuse. Rumsfeld is a cnut like Hoon.

That said, I imagine that a hand written letter from the deceased's CO to the deceased's parents/NoK is more meaningful than one from the Secretary of State, ever.
 
#8
Over to a Cousin for an answer to that. I'd be surprised if they didn't.
 
#9
Ok seadog, i see what you mean.

he could do three or four every day when they know whos come back in the black bag. that would have shown more respect.

Agent smith humbled :oops:

agent smith
 
#10
I'm confused about what they mean by 'a machine'...

Do they mean:
A LaserJet printer that prints out the letters?
or
An actual mechanical arm which holds a pen and simulates his signature?

The only difference is that in the latter, they would be blatantly trying to trick people into thinking that they were hand-sogned, whereas the former may indicate that they didn't know it would offend.

Anyone know the answer to this?
 
#12
I know that this is not too practical, but the lantern-jawed, War-mongering old c*nt should be made t visit every family personally, and explain precisely why their Son/daughter died in Iraq. :evil:
 
#13
Badger Lady is confused.

Anyone know the answer to this?
With no room for doubt? Donald Rumsfeld and his staff? :roll:

A templated letter is standard for all sorts of things these days. A genuine signature suggests the 'author' has seen it, therefore aware of the contents and approved it. A bit of a personal touch. A printer reproduced 'signature' fools nobody.

It looks clear from what I have read that Rumsfeld is too busy and has a machine that holds his pen to do the work. The technology has been around since shortly after the wheel.
 
#14
Badger Lady is confused.
Eternally! :?

Problem is, you can never be sure if the press are taking the word "machine" just slightly out of context without anyone picking up on it.
I do agree, he should sign all the letters, doesn't matter how many there are - take them home at the weekend and read them all.
 
#15
It could have been an ink pad and stamp for all the difference it makes. I am pretty sure that he could find the time to sign the letters, it's not like anyone actually expects him to write the damned things by hand!
 
#16
I think our Prime Minister has on occasion sent a handwritten reply to angry bereaved relatives who have written to him personally, a disarming touch (which is presumably the aim).

As for the Rumsfeld condolence letters, printed word-processed letters based on a template should be perfectly acceptable, but it seems typical of him not to have been signing them personally. In practice, this means that some minion on DoD staff would have handled the letters without Rumsfeld even seeing them or registering the human cost which they represented. Once again a solution which was technologically logical but lacking the human dimension, and ultimately self-defeating.
 
#17
far2young2die wrote

It could have been an ink pad and stamp for all the difference it makes.
It does make a difference, hence the insult, hence the thread. In the American psyche, a member of government taking the time to be personal makes a difference. If a death in combat is a matter for the President's personal attention, Americans are even more 'chuffed'. In the British psyche, it is the deceased's Commanding Officer taking the time-more a matter of comradeship, responsibility and personal honour- to be personal that matters.

Nothing will bring back the dead or disguise the fact that they died for a cause not worth the life of a single infidel but a signature by the hand of Rumsfeld will make a difference.

Rumsfeld's detachment is all the more shameful as he has served ( USN) unlike TCH.
 
#19
I know it is disrespectful, but if you think about it, how many KIA's have the USA suffered in Iraq. I would say well over 1000.
Thats a lot of signatures for 1 man to make.

No it isn't, in fact it's relatively few. It's the very least he could do and would be a good way to make him remember what the consequences of his decisions are.
 
#20
OldRedCap said:
Do Yank families get a letter from the guy's CO as well as the pamphlet from Rumsfeld?
Unless things have changed greatly in the last few years, yes.

The last time I pulled Duty NCO, our Captain was working late. Turns out he was writing a letter to a Marine's family, all hand written. Worst job a CO has to do.


I agree, Rummy should be taking the time to sign them himself.
 

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