Domestic fuel price cap

Sixty

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SC is pure profit.
No. It is not. For the reason I've advanced above. Your perception of it may fuel your misconception but you're wrong.
 
The Standing Charge is a con. The cost of Gas and Lecky and getting it to you is included in the price of the commodity - the SC is pure profit for the Companies.
Maybe we shouldn't have let past govt's get rid of the CEGB and hive off the energy sector to foreign owners, just a thought. Haven't looked for a while but what is the price of oil and then the price of Propane/Methane. SinceI retired I have lost my info from work about the oil and gas markets.....so I'm with you fella.....
 

Auld-Yin

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No. It is not. For the reason I've advanced above. Your perception of it may fuel your misconception but you're wrong.
Then explain why, after ofgem removed the necessity for companies to charge SC the companies decided to retain it?
 
The Standing Charge is a con. The cost of Gas and Lecky and getting it to you is included in the price of the commodity - the SC is pure profit for the Companies.
Memory jog:-
When our electric failed at 2000hrs March 2017 , the supply cable under our drive had blown. Within 3 hours they started to rip up the drive. As there was a 12in medium gas main crossing the cable at 24 inch depth, the gas board were called, a generator, lights, JCB, ballast wagon, with grab, gas blokes, electric blokes, tarmac blokes, about 12 men, a tarmac wagon, and several transits for the gas and electric. Through to 0300hrs the following morning. When i questioned the cost, i was told it is paid for out of the standing charge. The Electric supervisor told me that the average cost for this type of call out, after hours is about £3000.

They had to replace about 5 square metres of tarmac drive, down to a depth of 36in.
 

Sixty

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Then explain why, after ofgem removed the necessity for companies to charge SC the companies decided to retain it?
Because it costs money to keep people on supply.
 

Auld-Yin

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Because it costs money to keep people on supply.
Then why am I not charged a SC when I fill up my car with fuel?
 

Sixty

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Then why am I not charged a SC when I fill up my car with fuel?
Because BP/Esso/Whoever are not obliged to make sure that you’re able to access petrol.

Honestly, this really isn’t difficult.
 
Memory jog:-
When our electric failed at 2000hrs March 2017 , the supply cable under our drive had blown. Within 3 hours they started to rip up the drive. As there was a 12in medium gas main crossing the cable at 24 inch depth, the gas board were called, a generator, lights, JCB, ballast wagon, with grab, gas blokes, electric blokes, tarmac blokes, about 12 men, a tarmac wagon, and several transits for the gas and electric. Through to 0300hrs the following morning. When i questioned the cost, i was told it is paid for out of the standing charge. The Electric supervisor told me that the average cost for this type of call out, after hours is about £3000.

They had to replace about 5 square metres of tarmac drive, down to a depth of 36in.
That sounds like bollocks.
Anything up to your meter is feck all to do with the house owner.
 

Auld-Yin

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Then why am I not charged a SC when I fill up my car with fuel?
Because BP/Esso/Whoever are not obliged to make sure that you’re able to access petrol.

Honestly, this really isn’t difficult.
Shell Energy, my supplier, are not obliged to charge separately for their supply services but do. SC is profit.
 
That sounds like bollocks.
Anything up to your meter is feck all to do with the house owner.
You are correct. no charge to me:-
The cable that failed was before the cut out, meter and consumer unit. Their problem, their cost, any failure after the meter on my side, is my problem.

£3000 was what it costs to repair that type of call out. i did not say that i was billed. only that is what it costs the company.
 
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You are correct. no charge to me:-
The cable that failed was before the cut out, meter and consumer unit. Their problem, their cost, any failure after the meter on my side, is my problem. ( JIB graded approved electrician for 50.5 years)
Then why would you need to include the statement: " The Electric supervisor told me that the average cost for this type of call out, after hours is about £3000. ", when clearly, it isnt a charge made to the customer, ever, unless they caused the damage.
 
Then why would you need to include the statement: " The Electric supervisor told me that the average cost for this type of call out, after hours is about £3000. ", when clearly, it isnt a charge made to the customer, ever, unless they caused the damage.

Apologies, my bad, i did not explain it correctly. Amended.

Edit To Add. As a sparky we had some common ground, and so talked shop.
 

Auld-Yin

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Then why would you need to include the statement: " The Electric supervisor told me that the average cost for this type of call out, after hours is about £3000. ", when clearly, it isnt a charge made to the customer, ever, unless they caused the damage.
There is still a cost for the work carried out, both Labour and materials. The fact the householder does not pay it is irrelevant. The point being made is the cost is picked up by the Service Charge.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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Then why would you need to include the statement: " The Electric supervisor told me that the average cost for this type of call out, after hours is about £3000. ", when clearly, it isnt a charge made to the customer, ever, unless they caused the damage.
It's still a business cost, which I always believed had to be paid from the SC.

Now I see it comes from ......
 

AlienFTM

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I've never understood the gobbly-gook inherent in fuel bills. They are almost as bad as BT - Try to find out when your contract ends..................
I went with nPower after being chatted up by a young lady at the Ideal Homes Exhibition a couple of decades ago. Shortly before that, I'd done Consultancy for their predecessors MEB.

When I was forcibly retired, I put in the effort to get the best deal, and stayed with nPower. A year or two back, they suddenly announced mid-contract, that they were putting up their prices. I immediately shopped around, found a better deal and told them where to shove their price rise where the sun doesn't shine.

They got back to me and told me that because it was mid-contract, they'd invoke an exit charge cost. My reply to this was that it was okay for them to force a cost-rise onto a poor old pensioner (I may have been a little liberal there) the thieving EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS but not okay for me to shop around? I emphasised that they were a bunch of EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS the bunch of EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS.

They never did take the exit charge. The bunch of EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS.
 
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AlienFTM

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Look on the bright side, you can leave the heating on and the windows open and your Bills are capped!
It's the Greenhouse Effect. When your greenhouse gets too hot, you open the windows.
 

Auld-Yin

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I went with nPower after being chatted up by a young lady at the Ideal Homes Exhibition a couple of decades ago. Shortly before that, I'd done Consultancy for their predecessors MEB.

When I was forcibly retired, I put in the effort to get the best deal, and stayed with nPower. A year or two back, they suddenly announced mid-contract, that they were putting up their prices. I immediately shipped around, found a better deal and told them where to shove their price rise where the sun doesn't shine.

They got back to me and told me that because it was mid-contract, they'd invoke an exit charge cost. My reply to this was that it was okay for them to force a cost-rise onto a poor old pensioner (I may have been a little liberal there) the thieving EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS but not okay for me to shop around? I emphasised that they were a bunch of EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS the bunch of EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS.

They never did take the exit charge. The bunch of EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS.
All the EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS companies do this. Mine, Shell Energy, used to be First Utility, tried that on me stating that it is based on my usage. I pointed out that they the EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS company had used the figures with winter months to reach their estimated figures, which were way higher than my actual usage, as shown in my bill !!!!!

I also explained that the EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS, company had entered into a contract with me which they were now trying to alter, and therefore, as they were breaking/ changing the contract, I was free to shop around. Said EXPLETIVE DELETED CURRENT AFFAIRS, did not change the contract and accepted my POV as a formal complaint!
 
Why have we got a socialist fuel price cap anyway? Where are we, North Korea?
 

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