Does the TA offer this too? If not, why not?

#1
I just had a quick look over on the RAuxAF website and spotted this:

RAF Reserves Student Recruiting Scheme
The RAF is currently launching a new and exciting scheme to recruit 30 students currently in tertiary education into the RAF Reserves to train as RAuxAF Regiment Gunners.

We can offer you a 4 or 5-year contract, depending on the length of your student course.

We will pay you at the same basic rate as a regular serviceman for every day that you train with us - up to 50 days a year! We will even pay for your travel costs from your home to your place of duty.

We will provide full training, including recruit training, specialist trade training and adventure training. There will be no requirement for weekend training during term-time- it will all take place during the holidays and should not affect your studies. Once fully trained, we will offer you the chance to be mobilised and serve alongside regular RAF personnel in the UK and worldwide.

You may elect to undertake short periods of mobilised service during your holidays or you might choose to defer your obligation and take a full military gap year with us at the end of your studies. We will even pay you a lump sum on completion of 365 days of mobilised service.

So- add to your CV- future employers are looking for additional skills that will separate the best from the rest. Many of the skills and qualities you will get from training in the RAF Reserves such as negotiation, team working, communication, leadership, management and confidence, are transferable across all jobs and work places. In addition you will have the chance to develop specific skills and earn qualifications that may be relevant to your future career.

Are you up for the challenge? If you would like further information about the RAF Reserves Student Recruiting Scheme email us at dipr@rafreserves.com.

http://www.rafreserves.com/news/Story.aspx?article=307

I'm not sure if this project was born on the back of the TA's Summer Challenge, but it seems like they've taken it a step (or two) further.

I think it sounds like a great idea, and if they advertise it properly, I'm sure it will be a big success.

Any comments?

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#2
I think the clue/problem is inthe bit that says "You may elect to undertake short periods of mobilised service". The Army, except in some pretty specialised circumstances (mainly Medics) is only interested in those willing and able to deploy for the full 6 months. Still, it seems like it could be a good idea, and may be worth following up. Given the horrendous state of RAuxAF manning, they are desperate enough to try anything. Perhaps the TA should watch, and learn from their successes and from their mistakes.
 
#3
Not that great ?
Pay scheme as per TA - days wage per day trained.
Only in the "Hols" - fair one - like Summer Challenge as you said.
( Sounds like they will get the X Factor tho ?)

Guaranteed mobilisation - may appeal to some ?

A bounty.

Sounds like a cross between OTC and TA ?

It does sound pretty flexible though. Thats probably the best bit.
 
#4
Sounds a good idea. I wonder how long it is tho before we go down the American route & offer all Uni fees paid in return for a spell in HMF.

LT
 
#6
Actually that sounds just like the TA., if you think about it

We can offer you a 4 or 5-year contract, depending on the length of your student course.
You are more than welcome to join the TA for 4 - 5 years whilst a student

We will pay you at the same basic rate as a regular serviceman for every day that you train with us - up to 50 days a year! We will even pay for your travel costs from your home to your place of duty.
Yep, we can do that, over 50 days if ness

We will provide full training, including recruit training, specialist trade training and adventure training.
No difference

There will be no requirement for weekend training during term-time- it will all take place during the holidays and should not affect your studies.
TA are volunteers are they not ? Careful management of bookings and this is easily obtained

Once fully trained, we will offer you the chance to be mobilised and serve alongside regular RAF personnel in the UK and worldwide.
Goes without saying, this has been happening for years now

You may elect to undertake short periods of mobilised service during your holidays or you might choose to defer your obligation and take a full military gap year with us at the end of your studies. We will even pay you a lump sum on completion of 365 days of mobilised service.
This is the one thing they have over us, but they can do it due to their role, in the TA you deploy as part of a Regt/Bn for roulement with the BG, op tasks change and each BG is a law to its self (almost) RAF Regt Op Tasks haven't really changed and have a history of swapping in guys for a month or so at a time

Can we do this ? Most definitely, we are in all intends and purposes, its just better packaging
 
#7
Agreed, it's all in the marketing strategy, and the way you put it across, you could, I suppose, do this at unit level to your local Uni's around freshers fayre time, lot's of poster's (doesn't cost a lot to make these your self, I had 200 hundred done a while ago, designed myself, and Coy fund's forked out £80 to have them printed, sent out to businesses and Uni's etc - actually got a few blokes in as a direct result) and glitz, to essentially sell a package we already offer (just unpackaged!).
Hello up there! Reading this lot are you?!
 
#8
It also may have something to do with the fact that the Regular Regiment are well under strength at present, and they are hoping to somehow drag some across :?
 
#9
The TA wouldn't do it. It would decrease the potential pool of regular (and TA?) officers - who should be joining the OTC
 
#10
Sound exactly the same as summer challenge.

Cram all the recruit training into the summer holidays and at the end of 5 weeks you're a trained soldier.

Nothing new here and offer nothing more than the TA does
 
#11
This did get my eye...

"You may elect to undertake short periods of mobilised service during your holidays "
 
#13
John_Jorrocks said:
LoneTree said:
Sounds a good idea. I wonder how long it is tho before we go down the American route & offer all Uni fees paid in return for a spell in HMF.

LT
Do university fees get paid for cadetships?
Yep, you also get salaried. Only a handful given out each year, and i'm not sure if the scheme is still going...

TB
 
#14
Bravo_Bravo said:
This did get my eye...

"You may elect to undertake short periods of mobilised service during your holidays "
"Sorry I couldn't do my homework, the Taliban blew it up."
 
#15
TopBadger said:
John_Jorrocks said:
LoneTree said:
Sounds a good idea. I wonder how long it is tho before we go down the American route & offer all Uni fees paid in return for a spell in HMF.

LT
Do university fees get paid for cadetships?
Yep, you also get salaried. Only a handful given out each year, and i'm not sure if the scheme is still going...

TB
You used to also get bursaries...which was £1,750 a year or £2,250 if engineering I think, not sure if they are still around.
 
#16
Cadetships are still around but only for medical and dental students once thay have done thier fisrt two years of medical college.

Buraries are definetly still around for anyone else.
 

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