Does the RAF regiment have a future?

There´s also the shiny issue of the Queen´s Colour Squadron, which isn´t a capability that the RAF is going to want to lose. Who is going to man that unit if the RAF Regiment is disbanded? Let´s face it, the likelihood of the Air Force relinquishing their only unit that can mount guard at Buckingham Palace is as high as them disbanding the Sparrows.

They could dick technicians and personnel from other trade groups to do a public duties tour with the QCS, the same way they dick them to stag on at the gates in lieu of RAF Police, only a public duties tour will be for three years, and not just a for weekend. I can´t see that being too popular with the average crab.
If the RN can manage to mount guard without having a full time sqn for synchronised mincing I’m sure the RAF could.
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syrup

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There´s also the shiny issue of the Queen´s Colour Squadron, which isn´t a capability that the RAF is going to want to lose. Who is going to man that unit if the RAF Regiment is disbanded? Let´s face it, the likelihood of the Air Force relinquishing their only unit that can mount guard at Buckingham Palace is as high as them disbanding the Sparrows.

They could dick technicians and personnel from other trade groups to do a public duties tour with the QCS, the same way they dick them to stag on at the gates in lieu of RAF Police, only a public duties tour will be for three years, and not just a for weekend. I can´t see that being too popular with the average crab.

Re-role them back into the General Duties trade which was the old trade the Drill guys came from anyway.
 
Create a volunteer force to protect UK airfields, maybe along the lines of the old HSF force. The job could be done by locally raised squadrons, with local knowledge, who can quickly report to 'their' airfield in a crisis.

Keep a cadre of regulars, built around II Squadron for overseas deployments, specialist tasks, and training the reserves. If necessary, the RAF can be given facilities at ITC Catterick for their basic training.
The real danger is the cost, running a training school that can be eye watering expensive.
In order to survive it needs to look at doing more joint stuff and save money,
 
There´s also the shiny issue of the Queen´s Colour Squadron, which isn´t a capability that the RAF is going to want to lose. Who is going to man that unit if the RAF Regiment is disbanded? Let´s face it, the likelihood of the Air Force relinquishing their only unit that can mount guard at Buckingham Palace is as high as them disbanding the Sparrows.

They could dick technicians and personnel from other trade groups to do a public duties tour with the QCS, the same way they dick them to stag on at the gates in lieu of RAF Police, only a public duties tour will be for three years, and not just a for weekend. I can´t see that being too popular with the average crab.
Mounting guard at Buckingham Palace belongs to a different era. Leave it to the Guards - if they even want it...
 
Any idea as to how long the RN Guards spend in the ceremonial unit before retuning to their ships? I´d read that there was a Naval Ceremonial Guard, and I assumed it was a semi-permanent organisation. Is it still ongoing?
No idea - assumed they just pressed ganged people in. I recall a few years back that they formed a ceremonial unit each year for ‘November Ceremonies’.
 
That's what the REME thought. Of course all the best people omit that nouveau stamping stuff.

I did that once in ammo boots. Rushing to get fell in outside the block for a NO2s inspection, I slid arse over tit and ended up sprawled in the dust. Needless to say, I failed the inspection.

It's a multitude of similar incidents - small and large - that inspired my user name.

Ammo boots should have been recalled to the stores and binned in the nearest skip the day that DMS boots came out.
 

P.O.N.T.I

War Hero
‘Ground close combat role’. Oh hold my aching sides - the army equivalent of the RAF Regt was RPC defence companies and that’s it.
I think you need to take a read of the whining bitch letter written by a bunch of moribund RAF Regt SNCOs. Even they admitted that the RAF Regt had become irrelevant.

Was that RPC defence companies or RAPC?
 

Stan_Deesey

Old-Salt
Should this idea EVER gain traction, the sales of baby oil and tissues in the II Squadron locale will be epic
Sales?? You mean they have to buy their own baby oil and tissues?

I thought they were issued with those items. They´ve been a part of squadron culture ever since their video went viral.
 
Something like Pararescue or steely eyed tactical LZ security and whatnot?

Seriously though, Pararescue would not be something to be sniffed at.
They could put all of that operational experience of parachuting into enemy territory and seizing airfields to good use.

‘We have an Entebbe situation unfolding near Umberto Gorge Sir!’

‘quick, get the head of the RAF Regiment on the ‘phone now and tell him to bring his finest unit to immediate notice to move’.
Said nobody in the MoD ever.
 
They could put all of that operational experience of parachuting into enemy territory and seizing airfields to good use.

‘We have an Entebbe situation unfolding near Umberto Gorge Sir!’

‘quick, get the head of the RAF Regiment on the ‘phone now and tell him to bring his finest unit to immediate notice to move’.
Said nobody in the MoD ever.
They did jump in to Sierra Leone in a show of force. A bit feeble really and rather late to the party given that it was a year into Silkman.

Come to think of, that’s another NEO that the RAF Regiment didn’t have a role in. Don’t recollect any of them being involved in the Cyprus NEO planning in 99. It’s almost as if they aren’t part of the party.
 

ches

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Something like Pararescue or steely eyed tactical LZ security and whatnot?

Seriously though, Pararescue would not be something to be sniffed at.

Piss taking with the 5 miler escapade & the Bastion shenanigans aside, the only really valid future role for the apes has to be pararescue surely? Its also a very important & required task whereas the original role for which they were formed is a bit null & void these days.
You'd have to bi-service the role though as when the RN helis are on det they'll need the same capability.
 
Piss taking with the 5 miler escapade & the Bastion shenanigans aside, the only really valid future role for the apes has to be pararescue surely? Its also a very important & required task whereas the original role for which they were formed is a bit null & void these days.
You'd have to bi-service the role though as when the RN helis are on det they'll need the same capability.
Think RM got that covered for RN
 
Piss taking with the 5 miler escapade & the Bastion shenanigans aside, the only really valid future role for the apes has to be pararescue surely? Its also a very important & required task whereas the original role for which they were formed is a bit null & void these days.

If it is important and required, why don't we have it now?

Flippancy aside - I can see there are probably a lot of mil capabilities that are important and Britain doesn't have, either ever, any more or takes a temporary gap between new kit coming in.

But para rescue? From what I hear 2 Sqn Regt can't even get the necessary jumps to get the whole sqn badged.

So on that basis who is going to provide the necessary air assets to get these para rescue from A-B.

A very quick look across the DLODs would suggest you need to invest big into that in kitting and training.

Presumably if you established the capability it gets air cover as it goes in.

So who would do all this new stuff and as it would almost be guaranteed to be from within hide, what are formations going to stop doing to allow this to be established?
 
Do all the people calling for a para rescue role mean as per the PEDRO callsigns? If so not going to happen in a million years.
They are well beyond the capability of the Rocks and most other people to be fair.
 

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