does make you think

Discussion in 'The ARRSE Hole' started by notinmyname, Mar 26, 2003.

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  1. I was just wondering if any of you guys/dolls, had heard if any weapons of mass destruction had been found yet, yes I know that a so called weapons factory had been secured, BUT if anything had been found im sure the propaganda machine would have told us by now. Yes I know that a reported find of 3000 chemical suits had been found, but I am still awaiting the pictures to prove this.
    What I do find astonishing is that troops have been sent to secure oil fields, but no troops have been sent to secure suspected sites of illegal weapons, I really do find this intriguing, especially as the main selling point of this whole "adventure" was to remove Iraq of weapons of mass destruction. Does make you think doesnt it?.
     
  2. Well it's certainly got you losing sleep.  

    Give it a rest now mate will you?.  The war is on, we're on the winning team.  

    Don't worry.....be happy! :) :) :) :)
     
  3. Not

    You seem intent on trying to wind us up.  You have made your position clear, now shut up and get back to your brazier whilst others have a proper "fire fight".
     
  4. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!   Nice one 3 G's!!
     
  5. NIMN,
    Funny things oil wells.  They're big, out in the open and easy to spot, and their location is known to pretty much anyone who has had dealings with the middle eastern oil industry in the last 50-60 years.  Sites where a dictatorial lunatic might want to hide weapons are most likely to be a bit harder to find.
    In my own patch here on this wee island to the west of your own, we've spent the last 30-odd years looking for illegal weapons, generally with not a great deal of success.  I've seen a company of soldiers, complete with search dogs and other agencies deployed to an area consisting of a small row of houses and take several hours to find what they were looking for.
    Unfortunately these boys don't put up big cartoon signs declaring "illegal weapons buried here".  Just because we haven't found them yet does not mean they are not there.  As you yourself have pointed out on other forums within this site, many states in the west should know what he has - shamefully some initially supplied his regime with the technology.
    I have no doubt we will find something.  However, while fighting the war, distributing aid, and reconstruction take precedence, it may be a while before resources can be committed to searching an area twice the size of Britain for that which Saddam shouldn't have.
     
  6. Just for the record, if the oil wells are left burning, there will a huge ecological impact on the local environment. Secondly, the oil is the countries own natural resouruce and and economically valuable one at that. In the same way the forces are trying not to damage the infrastructure, they are also trying to leave the country with the resources it requires in order to rebulid effectively.

    Secondly, I feel that the information coming from various non media sources is that the soldiers are rather busy fighting for their lives at the moment as the "Gentleman " are tyrannised by is encouraging them to dress as civillians and draw them in to battles where innocents can be hurt or killed. this means that to get to, identify and go through the forensic testing of places where WMD are is going to not be at the very top of the list - remember you are supposed to be an ex server.... Although I think that lies very uncomfortably with many of us as we would have at least expected a little empathy from you in that case.

    By the way, for the record, don't trivialise this war as an "adventure" as that is huge insult to the 20 servicemen who have already lost their lives, you never know who is reading this, PLEASE EMPLOY A SENSITIVITY, how many more times do you have to be asked?
     
  7. Just for the record, if the oil wells are left burning, there will a huge ecological impact on the local environment. Secondly, the oil is the countries own natural resouruce and and economically valuable one at that. In the same way the forces are trying not to damage the infrastructure, they are also trying to leave the country with the resources it requires in order to rebulid effectively.

    Secondly, I feel that the information coming from various non media sources is that the soldiers are rather busy fighting for their lives at the moment as the "Gentleman " are tyrannised by is encouraging them to dress as civillians and draw them in to battles where innocents can be hurt or killed. this means that to get to, identify and go through the forensic testing of places where WMD are is going to not be at the very top of the list - remember you are supposed to be an ex server.... Although I think that lies very uncomfortably with many of us as we would have at least expected a little empathy from you in that case.

    By the way, for the record, don't trivialise this war as an "adventure" as that is huge insult to the 20 servicemen who have already lost their lives, you never know who is reading this, PLEASE EMPLOY A SENSITIVITY, how many more times do you have to be asked?
     
  8. It would appear that NIMN is a prime example of the FBU.  Either endangering civilians for money or screwing the Armed Services any way possible (snide remarks etc).

    The only thing "does make you think" post makes me think is that he is a w@nker.
     
  9. Weapons Free - Weapons Free
     
  10. Not in my name reminds me of the people who used to try and sell copies of Socialist Worker at my University. Most of them were the sons and daughters of stockbrokers and barristers. They were totally absorbed in their own self righteousness and got mortally offended if anyone disagreed with them or refused to buy their f*cking newspaper.

    Mind you, one of the mature students on my course (he was in his late 20's so he seemed old to us spotty kids at the time) once told the wannabe revolutionaries that he'd passed their names to the local Special Branch - thier little faces were a picture!

    ;D :D ;D :)
     
  11. As usual NIMN believes what he wants to from his own research and ignores any other point of view put to him, bit like me really!! But no doubt somebody loves him/her. anybody a guy/doll as he sffectionately calls us when he is trying to put his points over.

    i suppose he has a second job as a counsellor  for Relate!!
     
  12. Yes but in a camp accent and a lisp ;D ;D
     
  13. Dear Sir or Madam

    We have yet again suceeded in rattling a few cages again which was your intention. I appreciate that you feel that your intentions may be good (what was the road to hell, paved with?). However your manner and way of coming across is somewhat condecending and seeks to demean your audience. May I suggest that rather than trying to provoke a reaction by trivialising (e.g. addressing people as guys and dolls isn't very PC its impolite), belittling and ridiculing your audience, that you actually think about what you write and put it over ina more mature way, thus you will come over as thought povoking rather than goading (As a subversive you are actually quite shit).
    Your views on the war in Iraq are quite acceptable, (we live in a democracy, the army get paid to defend it) and you should be allowed to express them freely and it is indeed laudable that your convictions have lead you to go on demos to voice your feelings(many Iraqis I know would love to have the ability to express what they want without fear of recrimmnation or violence directed against them, their families or associates both in Iraq and outside). However what  is not worthy of praise is the sly and sleekit way you have sort to upset the peolpe who use this website. People who have families, friends or maybe themselves are in or about to go into theatre.
    If you are in the UK, and if a terrorist incident were to occur it would be to the very people you ridicule and deride that you would be looking to for help, just as they would collaborate with the fire services.
    You mentioned in your previous e-mails "Crocodile tears of politicians". We are aware about politicians and do not need a reminder. However would you be so vocative  when it comes to seeing that servicemen and women get what they deserve, because you haven't been so far.
    Very few within the armed forces both here and within the gulf  want a war with Iraq or anywhere else for that matter  (I will neither condone or condem the whys and  wherefores of how it came about). They have however been directed by the legally elected government of this Country, and therefore are obliged to do so. (Something about heirs and successors, generals and officers). If you feel strongly about things then might I suggest that you write to the Tonbridge Wells Advertiser go and stand in Parliament Square with the Chap who has been protesting about Iraq for the last 2 years (Very nice chap he is too, I've chatted to him when I've been in London on anumber of occasions), as at the moment you do not have the ability of acheiving your aims here.
    If you are actually in the UK and want to learn about good political argument, The Socialist workers Party run courses in it if that is to your political taste,or why not join a mass debating club I am sure that will do you the world of good.
    In a previous reply you were described as a condecending C**t, I disagree with that as a Cunt is a useful object its something we all need.

    Regards
    The Mad Monk
     
  14. So i take it none has been found then ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D