Does fighting in stan keep terror away from UK?

#1
That's what was said by Eamonn Holmes this morning and others when talking about Gordos trip to Stan. It was said a few times that 'The current war in Afghanistan is helping keep terorism away from Britains streets'.

How?
 
#3
vvaannmmaann said:
Has Mr Holmes forgotten the Tube/Bus bombs in London?
I may be missing something but how are they related?
 
#4
Quick answer is no, and anyone that believes it does is simply living life in a crack induced state.
 
#5
Maybe he was thinking that all the baddies would gather in one place. However what about those who want the benefits of living in a civilised western world, where they have sanitation, probably have good jobs, watch TV etc. Then make bombs to kill innocent civilians in their host nation.
 
#6
Well, at least the long delays on flights from Kabul to Brize via Akrotiri keeps the Taleban from booking......

Gone .......................................























in a taxi, with my hat and coat
 
#7
Would the Tipton Taliban and co be on the offensive here if they weren't over there? There is plenty of evidence that British muslims are fighting out there. If they stayed here would they just quietly get on with driving their taxis?
 
#8
EX_STAB said:
Would the Tipton Taliban and co be on the offensive here if they weren't over there? There is plenty of evidence that British muslims are fighting out there. If they stayed here would they just quietly get on with driving their taxis?
Interesting. Maybe the solution to Northern Ireland would have been to invade spain, that way all the Catholic lot would have been too busy fighting in Spain to plant bombs in Belfast.

Fiendish :roll:
 
#9
The biggest threat to the UK at the moment is from so called "home-grown" terrorists anyway - not Terry sitting out in the Stan.

British Muslims - I fecking hate that term. :x
 
#10
arby said:
Interesting. Maybe the solution to Northern Ireland would have been to invade spain, that way all the Catholic lot would have been too busy fighting in Spain to plant bombs in Belfast.

Fiendish :roll:
They didn't go help the Argies :eek:
 
#11
vvaannmmaann said:
Has Mr Holmes forgotten the Tube/Bus bombs in London?
I thought the ball had been rolling long before any invasions (planning, preperation and the setting up of cells etc).
I'll keep on looking for where I read that.

Tanweer said:
argued that the non-Muslims of Britain deserve such attacks because they voted for a government which "continues to oppress our mothers, children, brothers and sisters in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq and Chechnya"
What has our government done to Chechnya?
IMO there will be Islamic terrrorist attacks regardless of what our country does, although Iraq seems to have been a catalyst.
 

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#12
Wasting money and lives out there maintaining an operationally experienced army. Its not worth the cost! Bomb it back to the stone age (that should take 2 secs) or leave and seal the borders by paying some other mug to do it!
 
#13
There are enough loons terrorising our streets without the Afghan and Iraqis chipping in as well.
 
#15
marty870 said:
arby said:
Interesting. Maybe the solution to Northern Ireland would have been to invade spain, that way all the Catholic lot would have been too busy fighting in Spain to plant bombs in Belfast.

Fiendish :roll:
They didn't go help the Argies :eek:
argh! damn, sorry EX_STAB, looks like that theory's out the window.
 
#16
get away without paying the operational allowance, LSSA and nail them for food and accom as well!
 
#17
Anybody who believes fighting in Afghanistan in some way prevents terrorists from taking action in the UK is delusional beyond belief.

Afghanistan has become a lost cause. 7 years on it is simply somewhere our troops gain operational experience. There's no serious reconstruction going on if it ever really started. We are not really winning hearts and minds in any significant way. There's insufficient boots on the ground to dominate it properly. We may win every fight with terry, but remember so did the Americans in Vietnam and look what happened there.

I think Afghanistan has become irrelevant and I fail to see what purpose is being served by our presence.
 
#18
Ord_Sgt said:
Anybody who believes fighting in Afghanistan in some way prevents terrorists from taking action in the UK is delusional beyond belief.

Afghanistan has become a lost cause. 7 years on it is simply somewhere our troops gain operational experience. There's no serious reconstruction going on if it ever really started. We are not really winning hearts and minds in any significant way. There's insufficient boots on the ground to dominate it properly. We may win every fight with terry, but remember so did the Americans in Vietnam and look what happened there.

I think Afghanistan has become irrelevant and I fail to see what purpose is being served by our presence.
It seems the larger percentage thinks that conflict is ill-advised. So why are we there? Where's the payoff for HM govt.? Is it this 'pipeline' I sometimes hear about? Other natural resources? Govt.s don't indulge themselves in wars without getting some payback of some sort.

I too was deeply sceptical about the 'we fight them there to stop them fighting here' thing but maybe there's something to it? Osama used A/stan as a base for his 911 attacks so maybe our being there has stopped >insert muslim figure of choice< doing his 'Haque 03' or 'London 05' or whatever other possible future attack that's been thwarted? International Jihad.

And that brings me to a long buried thought I'd dismissed as a 'foil hat' type of thought: we're told that Jihadism was the new black as far as international ideologys go... the new comunism if you like. What if A/stan is our attempt at stamping out 'A Moslem World' before it attains any form of permanence as countries get toppled like dominos when overthrown by, etc, etc.?

Is it a strategic thing [squashing the creation of a Moslem World] or just tactical [ridding A/stan of the Taliban/Osama for 911... we are there helping out the US]

But that surposes that fanatical muslims could, even if they wished it, make the western Judeo-christian based Democracies into Moslem based versions... or more realistically, Arab govt.s

I could see us not wanting the Middle East to become one big bloc of anti-western Moslem countries. There's a terrifying thought for western govt.s
 

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