Does CDT test for high levels of testosterone?


I had a mate who had tore his shoulder muscles and he was on steriod treatments for a year to re-build the muscles in his shoulder.

He was allowed to dip out of CDT due to this as the Med Cen had given him a chit to excuse him due to level of steriods/testosterone that would be in his system.

I do believe that there is a possibility that high levels may require you to parade at the Guardroom in coveralls less head dress......
A letter by a PMQO detailing all legally prescribed medicines is enough to ensure that if you have balls of steel...they will not melt you down.

If a DR has written a prescription fot it you are inviolate; (almost)
Thats what I thought

no-one is exempt from CDT.

when you turn up and the man/woman gives you your pot - when they fill in the forms you are asked'what prescription and non-prescription medications do you take'

defetes the object of the game if we had a 'get out of CDT card'
Alternatively eat a balanced diet and train hard. You don't need that sh1t.
I've known at least 40 to 50 blokes who have taken steroids whilst serving and non of them ever got pinged on a CDT. They don't test for roids though individuals can be tested for it if the CO's believes the soldier is on gear. Never heard of it happening though and TBH a blind eye is usually taken to it.
Don't they usually tell you what they test for prior to the CDT? In the little breify bit.
well if any 1 else is curious about this, i have been told by sum 1 in the same position that if i take this product to the MO he/she will look at it and give you "permission" or not, as in the cdt it askes have u taken anything or refure to the MO or summin like that. this garentees you to be safe, rather then take a risk.
If you are thinking of buying the so called 'legal steroids' or 'testosterone boosters' what you can get on the internet then you're wasting your time and money. They're sh1te.


The last CDT at my unit, was a laugh. One of the guys was in hospital for heart surgery, and had all the Class A painkillers know to man or beast. Signed the form refer to MO. Ten days later he was stood in front of the CO. He said "You have morphine traces, care to explain?" I was in hospital for heart surgery FFS! "Oh........Carry on!". :D

The brief was interesting, "If you dropped a glass of whiskey in Belfast Harbour you could through CDT find out where it was dropped". I hope it does, but then again there were WMD in Iraq. :twisted:

CDT is a good thing, drugs and soldiering do NOT mix

Edited for being drunk and 97% civi Faugh-A-Ballagh!!!!!!
Wouldn't bother with it. The results from these "legal steroid replacements" will be unnoticable, and you'd be much better off spending your money on some decent quality protein powder.

I know a lot of people in the army who have taken steroids and like Fallschirmjager said, never known any of them be pulled up for it, even when CDT'd.

HOWEVER, people are noticably more agressive and "on edge" when they're taking them and it is almost certainly a bad idea to experiment with anything which could impare your judgement when you're doing a high-stress job with an automatic weapon in your hands.

There's also the chance that you *could* get caught. And is it really worth risking your entire career over?

My advice - Beast the gym, stay natural. If you have to take anything, research it and take the "real" stuff once you've left the army.


Hi mate

Yeah don't bother buying that rubbish its a total waste of money.

And the CDT i doubt will test for steroids because when your testing that many samples each one for each individual drug it will cost an absolute fortune. So I doubt they bother.


I knew a couple of lads taking norateen they both noticed that their cardio fitness took a steep dive, also 1 of them started to have dramas with his heart. Funnily enough neither of them take it any more.
Firstly, putting on extra muscle weight training will obviously slow you down as you will be carrying more weight. secondly, many people who 'get into' weights start to neglect their cardiovascular fitness.

Why would norateen give anyone heart trouble? I think you are scaremongering.


I'm not trying to scaremonger, i'm only talking about one person who had a scare. fair enough it could well have been caused by any number of other influences,i'm pointing out a potential problem. I would be interested to hear if anyone has suffered similar side effects.


Norateen Heavyweight is a product widely used in my area of activity (national league rugby union) and I would say the majority of the Premiership Academy players use it, including fringe 1st XV players and age group internationals. If there were any health problems this would certainly not be the case. However, like many products, it is onyl as good as the effort and excersise you put into training. Appropriate diet and hydration are just as important.

Norateen Heavyweight is 'above board' and not on any banned substance lists I have ever seen. This doesn't mean that the Army have a different view though. I would venture that the lean muslcle mass a rugby player (certainly a high-level forward) needs is far greater than that of an average soldier, where endurance and areobic fitness is, IMHO, far more important.

If you do not agree, then fair play. Remember what Fallschirmjager said, and DO NOT neglect the old CV fitness, and avoid weights machines like the plague (such as the peck deck) as they only excersie specific muscle groups and can effect posture and your joints. Try 'fee' weights excersises such as Power Cleans, Bent Over Rows, Push Press, Squats, et al. Such excersies engage larger groups and allow the body to compensate, thus creating a better posture and more natural look; think of those roid-ridden cavemen in the gym with their huge chests and tiny legs by comparison.

Do not expect overnight improvement. Hard work and a good diet is vital, and I would say more important than any 'pump-pump' powders, legal or otherwise. And, as my conditioning coach says, 'run like fcuk!'

Don't forget to smash in the guns and chest though, summers around the corner and those beach weights mustn't be neglected!


My wife is the one that gets to process all the tests results from the labs for the CDT and then sends the signals to the units with the good news. At the moment they only test for steroids at the request of the unit, and more units are starting to ask for this. They are always getting suggestions from the labs to improve the tests and to enable a basic test to cover more areas. You have been warned.

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