Does Aurora exist?

Auld-Yin

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#2
Maybes Aye; Maybes No
 

maguire

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#3
possibly...
 
#4
Considering the US built the F117, in complete secrecy, I'd suggest there's way more advanced aircraft out there we have no idea about and can hardly imagine. Aurora is way behind the curve I would suggest, wasn't that the A10 of then US Navy fame?
 
#7
IIRC NASA has already gone unmanned hypersonic, the Ruski's and Chinks are working together with hypersonic 'space transport'.

Can't see the Us military ignoring this route, unless they already know better?
 
#8
Tin foil hat on.....
Thought there was some kind of sat image evidence that showed a strange contrail that left US airspace and did a big loop out over China and then back home , showed evidence of a scram jet or whatever engines the bloomin thing is supposed to use ....
Hat off ...
 
#9
There's a declassifed report from DIS - here which, by redacting sections on pages 7 and 9 of the pdf suggests that the US might have a couple of.... er.... interesting items going around about a decade ago.

IIRC, Ben Rich (formerly of Lockheed) said that Aurora was in fact a blanket name for several stealth/B-2 related projects and that no specific aircraft had been developed under that project. The inference was that there was something, but that the Aurora code-name wasn't it/them...
 
#10
Well, since the US Navy S.E.A.L.s were in R.A.F. Machrihanish specifically to guard the place and the Auroras that flew from there, a fair few years ago now, it is a certain bet that it did exist at that time at least. Whether or not the thing is still flying is of course another matter.

And no, I don't know why the S.E.A.Ls were guarding a USAF asset rather than any equivalent USAF spec-ops force, so don't ask.

Tam
 

maguire

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#11
at the moment, until the USAF or NRO (or whoever it is who operates it - if indeed it does exist) goes public, you're left with a lot of 'what ifs' and 'maybes'. there's the donuts on a rope contrail - supposed to be a characteristic of the pulse detonation engine - thats been photographed - whether thats down to Aurora or not who can say. there are the 'airquakes' - very loud sonic booms picked up by seismologists, that seem to point to an air vehicle operating in the mach 4-5 range. the wiki article ties up a lot of the current evidence (if indeed you can term it evidence).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft)

theres also a very good page at the FAS website - Mystery Aircraft - Aurora
 

the_boy_syrup

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#12
Tin foil hat on.....
Thought there was some kind of sat image evidence that showed a strange contrail that left US airspace and did a big loop out over China and then back home , showed evidence of a scram jet or whatever engines the bloomin thing is supposed to use ....
Hat off ...
The so called donuts on a rope contrail
Also spotted over aerea 51,Edwards and an Iranian missile test

 
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Well, since the US Navy S.E.A.L.s were in R.A.F. Machrihanish specifically to guard the place
Hardly. We got to crawl all over the place seven or eight years ago for a fortnight. It was just conveniently located for training, and they had a nice building (although the jacuzzi was curious, their indoor range allegedly got condemned for not having a backsplash curtain). There was also a very large runway, some nice seaside views, and if you believe the rumours some storage for little drops of instant sunshine.

Sorry, no "secret hangars" or "massive underground bunkers". Rather boring, actually. Some houses in line of sight of the runway, and a road that goes right past it - rubbish place for tippety-top-super-secret-airplanes to land, really.
 

the_boy_syrup

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Hardly. We got to crawl all over the place seven or eight years ago for a fortnight. It was just conveniently located for training, and they had a nice building (although the jacuzzi was curious, their indoor range allegedly got condemned for not having a backsplash curtain). There was also a very large runway, some nice seaside views, and if you believe the rumours some storage for little drops of instant sunshine.

Sorry, no "secret hangars" or "massive underground bunkers". Rather boring, actually. Some houses in line of sight of the runway, and a road that goes right past it - rubbish place for tippety-top-super-secret-airplanes to land, really.
Lots of sonic booms allegedlly
 
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"Sorry, no "secret hangars" or "massive underground bunkers". Rather boring, actually. Some houses in line of sight of the runway, and a road that goes right past it - rubbish place for tippety-top-super-secret-airplanes to land, really."

Hmm, but hangars need not be permanent structures, one recalls seeing BFO inflatable thingys with planes inside them, and a massive runway would help the safe take-off and landing of Aurora. Being a hypersonic secondary ramjet spooky thing, Aurora would seem to have needed massive runways.

Besides, if the S.E.A.Ls are really almost as good as Them, you wouldn't have seen them if you had been crawling round the base for months, gravel, :cool:

Tam
 
#17
Well, since the US Navy S.E.A.L.s were in R.A.F. Machrihanish specifically to guard the place and the Auroras that flew from there, a fair few years ago now, it is a certain bet that it did exist at that time at least. Whether or not the thing is still flying is of course another matter.

And no, I don't know why the S.E.A.Ls were guarding a USAF asset rather than any equivalent USAF spec-ops force, so don't ask.

Tam
Not to mention air traffic control tracking aircraft into Macrihanish at impossible speeds backin the day.
If I remember rightly, Macrinhanish was one of the european aibases deemed suitable for SEAL usage and not necessarily related to Aurora
 
#18
From what I have been told from someone who is more likely to be in a position to know than anybody else that I have ever met (yes, yes I get the whole 'its a great big secret' thing etc.) if someone wanted to look for Aurora (if it exists) or any other highly classified experimental aircraft then they would be better off turning their attention to a certain, very remote, area in the Australian outback than they would sitting in the hills above Area 51 or any other mainland US base
 

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#20
There have been many, many sightings as well as audio recordings of the so-called Aurora aircraft. However, for anyone who's ever lived in Hastings or surrounding areas, it could just as easily mean it's a chavved-up F16 with farty exhaust accoutrement, accelerating hard from the lights.
 

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