Does anybody in germany care about security anymore?

#1
Does anybody care about security? I work in security and on a day to day basis come across soldiers who think that the security is ok till someone tells them that not every tom dick and hans can enter military camps! then the people like myself are just here to inconvenience them! and some of the crap i and others get is unbelievable ! not an easy job trying to keep people happy but some people are impossible! but there should be no compromise on security does anyone care? or is it just a matter of time before we get some of what the uk has had in recent years!
 
#2
Long as you aren't letting swarthy men with beards mumbling "Allah Akbar" on post you should be okay... ;)

Kinda surprised to hear this though... back a decade and a half ago when I was stationed there, security was very tight around Germany.
 
#3
Have to be careful what i say but the system is good but the people who are flanking it and thinking with the pants instead of what is under their hat
and of course the higher so called sensible element who want the security without the inconvenience are the problem in my opinion! let us do our job and we can maintain a high degree of security but the tinkerers and so called experts are the problem!
 
#4
Army security has always been reactive, and nobody has been blown up, mortared, had their kids shot in the back of their car or been assassinated in Zeebrugge in the last 10 years.

DOOR, HORSE, LOCK, BOLTED, STABLE = Security state measures

Speak to some of the young lads, they dont even know what the IGB was, never mind Donna Mcguire & chums
 
#5
I know Gate 15A is so easy to climb over and since the camera doesnt work anymore anyone could plant a fake mirror bomb at the POL point. As long as you use the 18 minute and 22 second slot between the dog handler and internal patrol passing each other you cant get caught honest.

At least we have the alert and fit security guards at the main gate to keep us safe :wink:
 
#6
The_IRON said:
I know Gate 15A is so easy to climb over and since the camera doesnt work anymore anyone could plant a fake mirror bomb at the POL point. As long as you use the 18 minute and 22 second slot between the dog handler and internal patrol passing each other you cant get caught honest.

At least we have the alert and fit security guards at the main gate to keep us safe :wink:
If thats true why are you posting it on the interweb.

Or am I having a sense of humour failure?
 
#7
mark1234 said:
The_IRON said:
I know Gate 15A is so easy to climb over and since the camera doesnt work anymore anyone could plant a fake mirror bomb at the POL point. As long as you use the 18 minute and 22 second slot between the dog handler and internal patrol passing each other you cant get caught honest.

At least we have the alert and fit security guards at the main gate to keep us safe :wink:
If thats true why are you posting it on the interweb.

Or am I having a sense of humour failure?
Wah

Just picking myself off the floor, obviously looking for your sense of humour. :twisted:
 
#9
i think you have to go somewhere where your security sense is hightened, like our author for example, experience has tempered his. for some, being out in iraq or northern ireland wake them up to security. others just feel its like a little safe outpost that is invincible and react accordingly to threats.

front gate security should be high, the scrotes on the gates should be able to throw any querys to the guard 2ic and ic guard easily without fear of looking stupid... that is after all what they are more scared of.
 
#12
coolcee said:
Does anybody care about security? I work in security and on a day to day basis come across soldiers who think that the security is ok till someone tells them that not every tom dick and hans can enter military camps! then the people like myself are just here to inconvenience them! and some of the crap i and others get is unbelievable ! not an easy job trying to keep people happy but some people are impossible! but there should be no compromise on security does anyone care? or is it just a matter of time before we get some of what the uk has had in recent years!

At the end of the day its your job, ..if you dont like it ...leave...or get to grips with your people skills ..if you are ex-soldier then more fool you for doing it..
 
#13
easy-wan-kenobi said:
i think you have to go somewhere where your security sense is hightened, like our author for example, experience has tempered his. for some, being out in iraq or northern ireland wake them up to security. others just feel its like a little safe outpost that is invincible and react accordingly to threats.

front gate security should be high, the scrotes on the gates should be able to throw any querys to the guard 2ic and ic guard easily without fear of looking stupid... that is after all what they are more scared of.
I find it quite enjoyable as ROS to visit the lads on the gate, patrols in the early hours of the morning and check on alertness. On the whole nothing to complain about from the lads on duty, I think the poster of this thread is on more about the lads wo are enjoying a night on the tiles. To this end Guard commander/2 iC would always get my backing and immediate support if the beer goggles turn Mr Placid to Mr KN0B. Its always a good sight to see when Im doing a guard mount the kn0bber who gobbed off to the civvy guard/young Tom on the gate the week before doing his extras.
 
#15
pupgreen said:
iron i think youve hit the nail on the head..
id cards are also a fav,,, in my day your mod 90 was iriplacable,, these days its an item to clean ice off your car window,,,
when asked to show it most people have to go through the hole pack of credit debit cards to find the only one that matters,,if they havent lost it or left it in a disco to allow entry...
god pupgreen .....showing your age...
 
#17
Zeitgeist said:
coolcee said:
Does anybody care about security? I work in security and on a day to day basis come across soldiers who think that the security is ok till someone tells them that not every tom dick and hans can enter military camps! then the people like myself are just here to inconvenience them! and some of the crap i and others get is unbelievable ! not an easy job trying to keep people happy but some people are impossible! but there should be no compromise on security does anyone care? or is it just a matter of time before we get some of what the uk has had in recent years!
get to grip with my people skills ? you pompous twat!the people who are flanking their own security need to get the wake up call! lucky to have the job? my job is security! guess you must have been one of the ones i was talking about(when you were in) want security but non of the inconvenience!
Not sure what camp you are on about in BAOR..

At the end of the day its your job, you should be lucky to being that..if you dont like it ...leave...or get to grips with your people skills ..if you are ex-soldier then more fool you for doing it..
 
#19
Not pompous but you can dismiss my post as due to my lack of people skills? no not pompous at all! and if you needed a clue as to where i am the heading is a HUGE CLUE! as to what i am referring to!As for the security in the uk well no surprise that things are shithot! one of the other replys hit the nail on the head saying too many people here(in germany)
think nothing will happen and till it does want no inconvenience! most of them are fine and understand the measures! but the ones i am referring to
I and my collegues can only give the level we are allowed to and holders of purse strings are scrimping in the wrong places! we are all in this together
and need to work together on this! and sometimes it seems like we are swimming against the tide!
 
#20
coolcee said:
Not pompous but you can dismiss my post as due to my lack of people skills? no not pompous at all! and if you needed a clue as to where i am the heading is a HUGE CLUE! as to what i am referring to!As for the security in the uk well no surprise that things are shithot! one of the other replys hit the nail on the head saying too many people here(in germany)
think nothing will happen and till it does want no inconvenience
! most of them are fine and understand the measures! but the ones i am referring to
I and my collegues can only give the level we are allowed to and holders of purse strings are scrimping in the wrong places! we are all in this together
and need to work together on this! and sometimes it seems like we are swimming against the tide!
Well it did happen in the 80'S .....and everyone was inconvenienced...

It almost seems you want something to happen so you can say ," told you so."


As before if you dont like it.......I know you are in D but a clue ..where...
 

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