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Do most of you NCOs and COs where this boot in the Regs or TA?

#3
If you do PT in the Beacons in a new pair of those, you'd better have a wheelchair on standby because they're guaranteed to completely wreck your feet if you don't break them in. If I were you - and if you value being able to walk - I'd pop into the army & navy stores in Brecon and see what extra-comfy expensive pairs they have on offer there.
 
#5
Thanks for the advice ZO. When you mean break them in do you mean as in wearing them will make them fit you better? How about I try some normal civvie trainers at Brecon?

Also, just out of curiosity. Have you trained at Brecon?
 
#7
Yes, been there and to be honest with you, PT over the Beacons isn't really a solo activity - the weather can turn and before you know it you're in for an unscheduled night out in fog so thick you can't see your hand. Most squaddies will shell out for a pair of boots that protect your feet. Assault boots are OK if they come with the gel insole things, and if you wear them with those thick wooly socks they issue if you're lucky. If you're just doing PT on your own, I think you should look for some Magnum Hi-Tec boots (they're about £50-70ish but worth it)
 
#9
stay out of the mountains if your on your own and inexperienced.
even if you think they are only green hills they can and do kill people.
assualt boots are ok but just about anything would be better but if your a cadet they are probably good enough.
 
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#10
You're 14, I'd think long and hard before venturing out there especially on your own. As others have said the Brecon Beacons have killed people with a lot more experience and a lot more training than you.

If you do decide to go up there then those boots will/or should be fine as long as you break them in properly.
 
#11
I would be careful, fair play to being commited and having enthusiasm at your age but don't try to over do it. As its been said the Beacons are more of a group activity and not a smart idea for a solitary 14 year old. I assume you want to Tab with a full bergan as well which I would also be wary about. Your still developing and strenuous exercise involving weights and heavy loads may casue serious damage at the stage you are now.

Whatever boots you get they will need to be broken in and I would suggest gradually , theres nothing more of a hinderance than being midway through a weekend ex ( with cadets) or a long walk/tab and having your boots causing pain and discomfort.

As an aside im quite interested in what people say as im planning to do something similar
(although im a fair bit older at 22) in the Chiltern, Malvern, and Lickey hills.
 
#12
The Malverns are probably a better bet than the Beacons.... Starting by going to Brecon is like going for the Formula 1 title when you're just learning to ride a trike. You're probably going to do more harm than good!
 
#13
nothing wrong with wandering up peny-fan or whatever its called with mates and prefably somebody who can use a map and compass if the weather packs in.
trying to do the fan dance on your own is idiotic,. mountain rescue deal with enough idiots don't be one
 
#14
I'd suggest some bates falcons ,the soles are nice and knobbly like some X country running shoes but have a little more ankle protection and there not to pricey !
 
#15
I'd suggest some bates falcons ,the soles are nice and knobbly like some X country running shoes but have a little more ankle protection and there not to pricey !
Thats what I use and I can recomend them. They are light and comfy and you don't really want to start long rang tabbing in heavy boots at your age. Nothing personal, but your body is still growing and its quite easy to damage it if your not carefull.

Good luck though, the hill walking in Britian is some of the best in the world. As long as you don't have blisters the size of 50p's.
 
#16
I'm glad I'm actually getting sound advice. I've reconsidered the BB for a county(?) park in Ongar, which is a few miles from where I live.
It's got fields, wild animals e.g. deer, and mostly importantly...BIG HILLS. You know what I mean:)
 
#17
It is sound advice, from what I hear training with weight is actively discouraged before Phase 1. Save it for when there are PTI's around to supervise it properly. You're young, and the reason everyone keeps reminding you of this obvious fact is because if you go at it too hard you could do yourself permanent damage. I'm only 20-something and potentially looking at being barred from military service courtesy of a circulatory condition in my hands I picked up from abusing my body at your age. You say you're a fitness freak; good for you, it'll put you in good stead if you get to military training (Phase 1/Sandhurst/whatever) and you can get used to more specialised tortu..err..PT.. like tabbing when you get there.

My advice would be to go Hillwalking to enjoy it (including liking the exercise) and not treat it as some kind of military training. Work on your navigation skills, bring some friends, don't take it too seriously and just generally have a good time.
To that end, I'd be wary of outfitting yourself out Army gear. Issue Bergans are designed to fit over webbing, take abuse and carry stupid amounts of kit- not for comfort. They don't have hip pads and won't spread the load properly without PLCE underneath. Get yourself a comfortable backpack of a suitable size that fits properly and is less likely to shaft your back. Likewise the issue assault boot is designed to be cheap and tough; a pair of decent(ish) walking boots will likely be far more comfortable and not wreck your feet. You may want just the one black boot for ACF, in which case good advice further up.

Civvie kit also makes you look less "eager-beaver cadet soldier-wannabe" and (hopefully) a bit more switched on out on the hills.

On a final note - to answer your original question, a lot of NCO's and Officers I've met have been sporting Lowas and Altbergs. Wouldn't be splashing the serious cash for a pair of those just yet though, your feet are probably still growing and it would be a bit of a waste. The standard issue boot is the one you linked.
 
#18
Also, military kit tends to be dark, neutral coloured for very good reasons - not what you want if you have fallen off of a hill and are hoping mountain rescue finds you. At least one item of brightly-coloured civvy clothing would be a good idea, doubly so if you're on your own.
 

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#20
Well as I'm up and down Brecon every day just now on course I can say for a start, don't go to Brecon. At your age and lack of experience (Yes, at 14, you have a lack of experience regardless) it's a silly and dangerous idea. The weather at IBS is beautiful but give it twenty minutes up to the ranges and it's fog, mist, rain, wind, snot, tears that closes in within minutes of being a clear day.

Also, only nutters or people with really weird feet do runs or tabs in their issue boots. I can count a squad of 100 men for a Friday tab and see about a dozen with issue tissue on, the rest are primarily in Lowas or Altbergs.

We don't waste our money on Magnums as they have very poor (Read: None) ankle support and if you go over it's snappy snap time plus there are quite a few courses which specifically ban the use of Magnus.

So aye, as has been said, if you really want to do it, go get a decent set of boots mentioned above and go for runs round your local park to see if it's for you.

To be honest though I help our local Cadets out on a weeknight (Free kudos for my next SJAR!) when I've got free time from duties etc and I don't know why you'd want to do that sort of stuff anyway, none of the others seem to and there's certainly no real requirement for it.

P.S - Some people are advising you not to buy boots or do the PT. I say do it. It's the only way you'll realise if you're making a stupid mistake. Once bitten, twice shy and all that.
 

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