do I have to deploy on op herrick with 10 months to do?

#1
can anyone help? I am due to deploy on Herrick with 10 months to do till the end of my 22 years. have been told that I will be going for 4 months which is no probs, I just dont trust my unit and feel they might stitch me up and I will lose out on resettlement.
 
#2
Wrong forum fella.
 
#5
Before you go - if you can show that you couldn't do your resettlement for service reasons your service should be extended to facilitate you resettlement.

Far from ideal but them's the rules
 
#6
that version is a year out of date.
I will check the new version in the morning, as i believe that one of the amendments is about deploying.
 
#8
Filbert Fox said:
that version is a year out of date.
I will check the new version in the morning, as i believe that one of the amendments is about deploying.
Apologies, that was the latest one I saw posted on here and is the same as a friend has been using!
 
#10
DozyBint said:
Filbert Fox said:
that version is a year out of date.
I will check the new version in the morning, as i believe that one of the amendments is about deploying.
Apologies, that was the latest one I saw posted on here and is the same as a friend has been using!
The answer is yes, and Dozy, please tell me how your valued experience in the Army qualifies you to give a correct answer.
 
#11
Under new rules you must have 6 months residual service at the end of the tour, if you have done over 6 years, under 6 years service you must have 4 months, this to to facilitate Ressettlement, if, however, you do not have that residual service EOT the unit can, and should, apply for an extension to your ROD (Run Out Date) so that you can get your entitlements.
 
#13
LongJohnSilver said:
Under new rules you must have 6 months residual service at the end of the tour, if you have done over 6 years, under 6 years service you must have 4 months, this to to facilitate Ressettlement, if, however, you do not have that residual service EOT the unit can, and should, apply for an extension to your ROD (Run Out Date) so that you can get your entitlements.
Correct Mr Silver, but the bit about if you have done less than 6 years is a bit misleading, if you have done less than 6 years but more than 4 you do not have a Resettlement package as such, all you are entitled to is an interview with your IERO, Employment Support Package, which is £0 IRTC, 0 days GRT, JSHAO and FAR briefings, be registered with the RFEA and an interview with a consultant.

Personnel should also be aware that deferment of discharge for Resettlement purposes is only granted in exceptional circumstances and should not be looked upon as a 'dead cert' as to getting it.
 
#14
LongJohnSilver said:
Contact your local Resettlement Centre for further clarification.
Probably the best piece of advice there is when it comes to resettlement advice. So many people get confused because 'their mate' told them what they are entitled to.

What you should bear in mind when it comes to fellow soldiers giving you advice on resettlement is that you only truely know about resettlement once youve done it, and then you dont fully understand it.

I had a full resettlement package and I know work in Resettlement, it took me a good month in the job to get to grips with the whole thing, and to make things harder, it changes all the time.
 
#15
Filbert Fox said:
LongJohnSilver said:
Under new rules you must have 6 months residual service at the end of the tour, if you have done over 6 years, under 6 years service you must have 4 months, this to to facilitate Ressettlement, if, however, you do not have that residual service EOT the unit can, and should, apply for an extension to your ROD (Run Out Date) so that you can get your entitlements.
Correct Mr Silver, but the bit about if you have done less than 6 years is a bit misleading, if you have done less than 6 years but more than 4 you do not have a Resettlement package as such, all you are entitled to is an interview with your IERO, Employment Support Package, which is £0 IRTC, 0 days GRT, JSHAO and FAR briefings, be registered with the RFEA and an interview with a consultant.

Personnel should also be aware that deferment of discharge for Resettlement purposes is only granted in exceptional circumstances and should not be looked upon as a 'dead cert' as to getting it.
FF, remember that they have to take POTL, Annual Leave, Terminal Leave and decomression etc, that will all be around 4 months, with the extra 2 months (for those who have done 6 years plus) that gives you a full 7 week GRT as well, give or take.
 
#16
Granted, the extention of service is not guaranteed, however, in my experience when an SP is unable to get their entitlements in due to Ops they, MCM Div's will invariably extend to facilitate, any extension will require an AF B 6848 (manual) to MCM Div to apply for it though.
 
#17
True but personnel should not deploy during their last six months unless they have given written consent, at this point in time all should be in place to ensure that they do not loose out on their resettlement entitlement, it shouldnt be a mad rush to try and get it. The letter of consent should be sent with a supporting letter from his CO and IERO to the relevant agencies, these include DETSA and MCM Div.
Once you sign off or come into your last 2 years of a 22 year career then it is explained to you during your RAB that you should work your diary backwards from your day of discharge, this takes into account all the leave and entitlements that you have.
Basically if you dont give written consent to deploy during your last 6 months of your 22 years then you shouldnt be there.

If you give written consent to deploy during your last six months then before you actually go all paperwork will be in place to ensure that you dont loose your resettlement entitlement, including deferment. Of course, the soldier may have already completed all of his GRT prior to deploying and therefore any extension to service which would enable him to get in his leave, terminal, leave, POTL etc has nothing to do with resettlement agencies and therefore will be between his unit and MCM Div.
 
#18
FF

I have not seen anything re written consent to deploy in the last 6 months, I was under the impression that the rule changes to residual service after an Op Tour was to take all this into account (the 6 and over under six over 4 year rule), I have heard about the"not deploying in the last 6 months" thing, I think there is a thread on it somewhere on ARRSE, and it's something people have asked me about before and I can find no regulation on it (people you know lol), if you could PM me Chapter and verse on this writtem consent I would be most grateful.

Ta

LJS
 
#19
LongJohnSilver said:
I have not seen anything re written consent to deploy in the last 6 months,
Ill send you a copy.
 

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