DIY Camp?

#1
It appears that work may try to prevent me from attending camp this year. I had problems late last year and I only went away for the 5 days on the provisio that I could return to work ASAP if needed.

I think I can get around work but would need to be on camp somewhere with easy access to Yorks or South West London .

Is work just being OTT, I think they are worried that the TA would be a barrier in getting hold of me - a normal holiday wouldn't be a problem? Has anyone had similar exerience or know of solution. (The problem only lasts until June 2008)
 
#2
Are you restricting yourself to attending Annual Camp? Could you not choose a training camp (i.e. trade, qualification etc)?

How does work handle you going on holiday?
 
#3
Cavalier said:
Are you restricting yourself to attending Annual Camp? Could you not choose a training camp (i.e. trade, qualification etc)?
None left to attend except BOWMAN conversion

Cavalier said:
How does work handle you going on holiday?
Its percieved the TA is a barrier to communication (I think), not just my firm we are a subcontracting to a bigger firm (its them thats getting worried as they have had more experience of the MOD)
 
#4
If they view you as that important that they can't spare you for a few weeks you should ask for a BIG payrise.

Otherwise as they are aware of your commitment to the TA and all that it entails they don't have many options - they certainly can't sack you, but only you know your work situation and how difficult they could make life.
 
#5
Guess I'm also part of the problem, I don't want to upset work and be invaluable (and I don't want to push it just in case work begins to view TA membership badly). I think I've already buggered up any chance of promotion within the TA this year as I've become a less frequent attender by putting work first on several occasions.
 
#6
polar said:
as I've become a less frequent attender by putting work first on several occasions.
As you absolutely should.

msr
 
#7
Are you saying that yiou would be barred from going on holiday too? Or do they expect you to check in from the beach?
 
#8
WhiteHorse said:
barred from going on holiday too?
No, actually on hols since 5pm today for 1.5 weeks :D But have taken works PC home with me and given assurances that I could be contacted via email or phone, although I don't expect them to contact me.

I think they are worried that when I'm in uniform that flexibility has gone.
 
#9
polar said:
No, actually on hols since 5pm today for 1.5 weeks :D But have taken works PC home with me and given assurances that I could be contacted via email or phone, although I don't expect them to contact me.
As you absolutely shouldn't - it's a holiday for goodness sake!

msr
 
#11
polar said:
WhiteHorse said:
barred from going on holiday too?
No, actually on hols since 5pm today for 1.5 weeks :D But have taken works PC home with me and given assurances that I could be contacted via email or phone, although I don't expect them to contact me.

I think they are worried that when I'm in uniform that flexibility has gone.
work to live not live to work
he who tries and does his best goes down the road just like the rest
 
#12
oldnwise said:
work to live not live to work
WhiteHorse, no I don't log onto work email.

oldnwise, yeah true but we work for each other and have a bit of pride. Not too sure I like the 'I'm not going home first' culture.
 
#13
Have you taken the works PC home so you can keep logged onto ARRSE?
At the end of the day work should come first, (not for me), when I came back of Telic I told my employer to shove their job and found a company who see me being in the TA as something of an asset and encourage my being a member.
You sound like you are a well trained guy who is valuable to the company you work for, stand up for yourself or find a job where they will be happy for you to serve your country.
Its hard to take the plunge believe me but things always turn out for the best.
 
#15
I did a reduced camp last year as I had only just started a new job and I needed to be there for training but I have landed on my feet.
My last company treated me when I came back off tour like I had just come back from my lunch, so I bit the bullet and jacked in and and went out and sorted a job were I get the best of both worlds, being on tour made me realise my full potential, alls I'm saying is that the grass IS sometimes greener on the other side.
 
#16
Come work for my lot, can fulfill your patriotic urges and get 2 weeks paid leave for TA as they're owned by a mahoosive American company.

If you can deal with any of: Cisco VMWare, BizTalk, CIS Sy, server 2k3 > MCSE or similar we'll snap you up. You probably wouldn't want to move to my end of the country though.
 
#17
TA_sig said:
Come work for my lot
Ha, we'd probably have our bounties by now if I did!

No my CV dictates I have more chance of employment on the new M1 corridor not the M4 one. Thats the same for a number of soldiers in my regt who work in the same sector. Anyway my Bde Comd may sort my problem for me, he knows who I work for and what on. Maybe I should write him another letter :twisted: :twisted:
 
#18
Polar, you don't have to restrict yourself to a course, you could go on camp with another unit. Annual camp dates vary between units. Many of them go on camp short of various pers,(Instuctors,Drivers etc,etc) if your not too fussy about what you do, there are units out there that would rip your arm off for some help, you would broaden your experience, meet some new folk and solve your qual problem. A lot of the Summer ones are at camps along the south coast as well so travel does not have to be a problem. The answers out there, you just have to dig around a bit!
 
#19
Just to expand on this. Are you getting pager allowance or stand-by allowance? whilst on hols? If not, pull the phone out. if they expect you to be reachable outside office hours, they have to pay for it. final point, read all of your contract.
 
#20
Hi
Are you going to be using unpaid leave (as your using up your holiday now) from your civvy job to attend camp?

If so surely your employers can’t really expect you to turn in at short notice.

Also if you’re on a UK camp this year why not speak to your OC and let him know you may have to disappear in an emergency. Then if something does crop up look for a course later on in the year, if an emergency doesn't appear then your home and dry. :)
 
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