Disturbance allowance for single soldiers

#1
Could someone please confirm if a single soldier living in single soldiers accomodation who is posted and moves into single solders accom is entitled to disturbance allowance. One of the guys at my unit has been granted this by his previous unit, but on approaching a not very helpful Sqn Clk he says that i am not entitled to claim. I have looked at JSP752 and i seems to me that I am entitled, but i want to confim this before I have to tell the Sqn Clk how to do his job properly.
 
#3
The purpose of disturbance allowance is the re-enburse the costs of having to cancel Gym subscriptions, sky tv and telephone line just to name a few. Perhaps you were a block rat and if you like sheep porn well that was your choice. Most single soldiers now have all of the above in there rooms.
 
#4
Balls, disturbance allowance used to be for the hassle of getting your kids into new schools, uniforms etc and various other domestic thingys . In nine years I never heard of any singly getting DA but then I guess times change, sky in the blocks ?? Internet ??? harumph :D
 
#6
rowley632 said:
Could someone please confirm if a single soldier living in single soldiers accomodation who is posted and moves into single solders accom is entitled to disturbance allowance. One of the guys at my unit has been granted this by his previous unit, but on approaching a not very helpful Sqn Clk he says that i am not entitled to claim. I have looked at JSP752 and i seems to me that I am entitled, but i want to confim this before I have to tell the Sqn Clk how to do his job properly.
Absolutely not! SLA to SLA does not, nor ever has, entitled a soldier to Disturbance Allowance. (SLA = Single Living Accommodation).

What the guy at your unit may have got was Insurance Allowance. i.e. an allowance to cover part of the cost of insuring your kit whilst it is in transit. You will have to produce documentation in support of this.

Current rate of Insurance Allowance is £42.40.

See JSP752 Ch 7, Sec 3 for details.
 
#7
Yes a single person moving from SLA to SLA IS entiltled. This came in with JPA for us RAF -types, and I am led to believe that the allowances package came in tri-service at that stage even though the Army and Navy don't have the JPA system. It is about £85 if my memory serves me correctly (can check the exact amount at work tomorrow), and is to recompense things such as gym cancellation and the like. So the advice is: Definitely entitled if you are RAF, almost certainly if you are Army but best double-check.
 
#8
he recieved about 680 pound not sure if he has somehow slipped through the net but the Army from my expereince dont give you money for nothing. Will wait and see have emailed someone at MOD pay just waiting for a Reply.
 
#9
TheCrab said:
Yes a single person moving from SLA to SLA IS entiltled. This came in with JPA for us RAF -types, and I am led to believe that the allowances package came in tri-service at that stage even though the Army and Navy don't have the JPA system. It is about £85 if my memory serves me correctly (can check the exact amount at work tomorrow), and is to recompense things such as gym cancellation and the like. So the advice is: Definitely entitled if you are RAF, almost certainly if you are Army but best double-check.
Well, given that I am reading JSP752 which pertains to all 3 services I cannot find any mention of SLA to SLA Disturbance Allowance.

In fact this paragraph pretty much nails it:

07.0115. Qualifying Residences. To qualify for DA Service personnel, irrespective of PStat Cat, must be entitled to move at public expense and the move must be to or from a RWA. If a Service person elects to serve unaccompanied (UnAcc) and settle their immediate family in a SPR, DA may be claimed at the rate for the type of accommodation their family moves into (ie privately owned or privately rented accommodation or SFA).
01.0247. Residence at Work Address (RWA). A residence occupied by a Service person from which they commute to and from their place of duty on a daily basis without detriment to the satisfactory performance of their military duties. A RWA is normally within 50 miles or 90 minutes travelling time by public transport of the duty station.
And no, SLA is not a RWA.

The Disturbance Allowance rate for moving from RWA to SLA is currently £75.00.

I am more than happy to be proven wrong however, so would appreciate rather than you stating that an individual IS entitled that you provide some sort of reference for this assertion.

JSP 752

Thanks
 
#10
ELIGIBILITY
07.0104. Eligible Service Personnel. Regular Service and Full Time Reserve
Service (Full Commitment) (FTRS(FC)) personnel (irrespective of PStat Cat) are
eligible to receive DA on moving from Phase 1 to Phase 2 training, and on subsequent
qualifying moves. In order to avoid doubt, this eligibility includes single personnel.

RATE:

01.0606. RELOCATION ALLOWANCES RATES
Contact: XXXXXX - deleted - PERSEC

DISTURBANCE ALLOWANCE (DA) RATES
TYPE OF PROPERTY MOVED INTO 1 Apr 06 1 Aug 06
Privately Owned £1650 £1650 (No change)
Privately Rented £969 £969 (No change)
SFA/SSFA £969 £969 (No change)
SLA/SSLA £75 £75 (No change)

Didn't realise I could get a look at the JSP from home through the Army website! And please accept my apologies for being a tenner out!
 
#11
TheCrab said:
Didn't realise I could get a look at the JSP from home through the Army website! And please accept my apologies for being a tenner out!
No probs - do you now concede that there is no DA for SLA to SLA moves?
 
#12
Soldier_Why said:
No probs - do you now concede that there is no DA for SLA to SLA moves?
On the contrary - I thought I was showing that when moving between SLA you could claim £75 - which is what I claimed when I recently moved.
 
#13
ENTITLEMENT
07.0108. General. Only one rate of DA is payable when a Service person is
permanently assigned to a new duty station (plus the Child Element of DA where
appropriate). The DA payment is to be based upon the anticipated type of
accommodation being moved into by the Service person for the majority of the
assignment (but see paragraph 07.0115). Rates payable are for moves into:
a. SFA. This rate is payable to Service personnel who occupy SFA or
Substitute Service Families’ Accommodation (SSFA).
b. SLA. This rate is payable to Service personnel who occupy SLA or
Substitute Service Single Accommodation (SSSA).

c. Privately Owned Accommodation. This rate is payable to Service
personnel who occupy living accommodation owned by them.
d. Privately Rented Accommodation. This rate is payable to Service
personnel who occupy privately rented accommodation and who are
responsible for the rent.
 
#14
TheCrab said:
Soldier_Why said:
No probs - do you now concede that there is no DA for SLA to SLA moves?
On the contrary - I thought I was showing that when moving between SLA you could claim £75 - which is what I claimed when I recently moved.
Nope - read my post again

07.0115. Qualifying Residences. To qualify for DA Service personnel, irrespective of PStat Cat, must be entitled to move at public expense and the move must be to or from a RWA. If a Service person elects to serve unaccompanied (UnAcc) and settle their immediate family in a SPR, DA may be claimed at the rate for the type of accommodation their family moves into (ie privately owned or privately rented accommodation or SFA).
and yours:

DISTURBANCE ALLOWANCE (DA) RATES
TYPE OF PROPERTY MOVED INTO 1 Apr 06 1 Aug 06
Privately Owned £1650 £1650 (No change)
Privately Rented £969 £969 (No change)
SFA/SSFA £969 £969 (No change)
SLA/SSLA £75 £75 (No change)
In short, single soldier moving from RWA to block - DA
single soldier moving from block to RWA - DA
single soldier moving from RWA to RWA - DA
single soldier moving from block to block - NO DA

I'm pleased for you that you managed to claim DA for moving from SLA to SLA but I fail to see how any interpretation of JSP752 justifies this. Can you see what I am getting at?
 
#15
Mate I think you may have made the (incorrect) assumption that SLA is not an RWA. An RWA (residence at Work Address)is an address within 90 mins travelling time of your unit. It can be either SLA/SFA/Privately Owned or Privately rented. The only alternatibe to RWA is SPR(Selected Place of Residence). This is when you live further than 90 mins travelling distance away and can be SFA or private.
 
#16
Furthermore:

DISTURBANCE ALLOWANCE (DA) RATES
TYPE OF PROPERTY MOVED INTO 1 Apr 06 1 Aug 06
Privately Owned £1650 £1650 (No change)
Privately Rented £969 £969 (No change)
SFA/SSFA £969 £969 (No change)
SLA/SSLA £75 £75 (No change)

DA is payable on what you move INTO, not from. If SLA is not an RWA, why is it listed?
 
#17
TheCrab said:
Mate I think you may have made the (incorrect) assumption that SLA is not an RWA.
You may indeed be correct, but this paragraph:

01.0226. Home/Permanent Residence for Single Personnel. For single Service personnel the Home/Permanent Residence is either:

a. Home. A property that is either owned/part owned/rented/part rented where the Service person normally resides at weekends and/or periods of leave;
or

b. Permanent Residence. The address where the single Service person resides during the normal course of their day-to-day duties (eg SLA, Residence at Work Address (RWA) (either owned/part owned/rented/part rented))
suggests to me that SLA and RWA are quite distinct (although both Permanent Residences).

It seems to me then that your unit may have made the (incorrect) assumption that SLA is an RWA.
 
#18
TheCrab said:
Furthermore:

DISTURBANCE ALLOWANCE (DA) RATES
TYPE OF PROPERTY MOVED INTO 1 Apr 06 1 Aug 06
Privately Owned £1650 £1650 (No change)
Privately Rented £969 £969 (No change)
SFA/SSFA £969 £969 (No change)
SLA/SSLA £75 £75 (No change)

DA is payable on what you move INTO, not from. If SLA is not an RWA, why is it listed?
Umm, because if you move for example from a Privately Owned house (which is a RWA) into SLA you would get £75.00 DA. Were you trying to make a point here? :D
 
#19
The following statement appears under non-qualifying moves:

07.0106. Non-Qualifying Moves. The following moves are ineligible for DA:
a. Where Service personnel move between 2 residences when neither is a
RWA (ie between 2 Selected Places of Residence (SPR)).

The bracketed bit outlines SPR's, it does not expressly mention SLA to SLA (which is not an SPR). In my belief, you MUST live in either RWA or SPR, they are the only 2 options (although I am sure you will disagree and claim a 3rd option of SLA :D ). Bearing in mind the confusion between the 2 of us (professional administrators), it surprises me that no sentence in the regs specifically allows or disallows SLA-SLA moves. I believe that the spirit of the allowance (remembering that they are open to interpretation) is that is should include SLA-SLA moves (due to many people having phone lines etc). The RAF clearly agrees with me, because they pay it, and it is all done through JPA anyway, so the JPAC would pick up on, and bin, SLA-SLA moves if they were not allowed.

I think we shall have to agree to disagree.
 
#20
Gents this thread shows the clear differance between army pay staff and RAF pay staff

The Army (soldier_why) always sides with the army and would rather shaft the guy and not pay out

The RAF (the crab) Sees an opportunity to side with the troops and reads the regulations in favour of the guys.

No wonder we all hate pay staff.

Soldier_Why if there is any doubt ALWAYS give the troops benefit of doubt.
REMEMBER it is NOT YOUR money
 

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