Disillusionment within the Corps

#1
Having read through a lot of the posts on here, it would appear there is an awful lot of angst among the Corps, especially regarding life at Blandford.

Are individuals in higher echelons being made aware of such feeling?
 
#4
Billy_B said:
...Im sadly prompted to say that I cant wait to end my colour service with the Corps in 4 years time...
Put your money where your mouth is and end it now.

Get out or transfer, but don't force your unhappiness on those that don't want it!

Here, have this instead: :hug:
 
#5
Billy_B said:
Having read through a lot of the posts on here, it would appear there is an awful lot of angst among the Corps, especially regarding life at Blandford.

Are individuals in higher echelons being made aware of such feeling?
There is nothing unusual here.

Having serving 16 years I can quite honestly say that there has been 'angst' in the Corp for that entire 16 years and a lot of it appears to have been ignored by the 'higher echelon' for that same, 16 years.

[Sarcasm]
i) If it doesn't directly effect them they couldn't care less!!
ii) If 'angst' and 'misery' is created amongst the lower ranks while furthering your career, that is a perfectly acceptable compromise!!
iii) There is no 'angst' in the higher echelon, so, obviously, there is no 'angst' at all!!
[/Sarcasm]
 
#6
Bugger me the 'higher echelons are w*nkers and they don't care' slogans really are dull.

H-M,

I would argue that you are (after 16yrs) somewhat closer to the higher echelons than you make out.

B-B

If you have that attitude with 4yrs to do then I pity your unit. You have enough time left to do something with your life. If you don't like it, then spend the time working towards career No2, but do not become (perhaps you already are) a whinging f*cker who just p*sses everyone off. It is neither big nor clever.

Personally my 15+ yrs in the Corps have been gleaming. Great soldiers, great postings, great sport, loads of Ops and a good dose of drinking

Certa Cito

AY
 
#7
ArmyYid said:
Bugger me the 'higher echelons are w*nkers and they don't care' slogans really are dull.
Purely from my own personal experiences. Not all of them are but the majority are far too interested in furthering themselves at the expense of anyone below them.

ArmyYid said:
Personally my 15+ yrs in the Corps have been gleaming. Great soldiers, great postings, great sport, loads of Ops and a good dose of drinking
There are many many soldier in the same position, that really love it. Good luck to you and to them, I wish you all the best and hope it stays like that.
 
#8
This is an old one but still very, very true.

If your unit is sh1te, do something about it, sort out a club or put in a PPP.

My career in the Corps has had its ups and downs, but certainly more ups than downs.

Make the most of the oppertunitys that each unit may give you.
 
#10
Toxic Leader

I think we have all seen some of them in our times. Again I would hope (nay argue) that they are the exception rather than the rule and that has certainly been my experience.

AY
 
#11
heidtheba said:
This is an old one but still very, very true.

If your unit is sh1te, do something about it, sort out a club or put in a PPP.

My career in the Corps has had its ups and downs, but certainly more ups than downs.

Make the most of the oppertunitys that each unit may give you.
put in ppp got revoked, extended untill april. cheers, i wanted a posting not an extention.

edit... i was subject to the biggest windup going. dang and drat my stupidity
 
#12
As has been said many times, this is not a new story. I joined in 1967 and left in 1996. In that time, I came across many who whinged about things without getting off their arrises and doing something. The number of guys in Cyprus who used to moan about nothing to do used to make me want to scream. I couldn't find enough hours in the day to do all the things available and they used to fess in their pits waiting till the NAAFI opened FFS!
In my last posting, I had two particular guys who felt the world owed them a living. I interviewed both and gave one the advice, "If you don't like it, leave" as I felt he was wasting my time and his attitude was having a knock on effect with the other guys. The other one was just frustrated because Manning & Records wouldn't give him a good career path. I told him that, if he put his efforts into the Troop and stopped his whinging I'd help him all I could.
The first one left the next year and, last I heard, has a job in some boring office working for local government. The other guy is now an RSM in the Corps (or was up till last October when I saw him at a reunion).
So the answer is, guys, you'll only get out of it what you put it into it, honest.
(PS bit of a whinging prat myself in my younger days..we had a club called the Permanent Corporals Club and used to whinge like crazy. I was almost 30 when I realised what a prat I was...retired as a Major 17 years later so I've been there, done that...once you grow up it gets a helluvalot better and, no, I'm not patronising you. It's always been like that)
 
#13
easy-wan-kenobi said:
heidtheba said:
This is an old one but still very, very true.

If your unit is sh1te, do something about it, sort out a club or put in a PPP.

My career in the Corps has had its ups and downs, but certainly more ups than downs.

Make the most of the oppertunitys that each unit may give you.
put in ppp got revoked, extended untill april. cheers, i wanted a posting not an extention.
What were the reasons givin for turning you down and THEN extending you?

Surely that is cutting off your nose to spite your face?
 
#15
Oh so piss off the blokes you already have, nice way of doing buisness.

And are all your blokes really short?
 
#16
heidtheba said:
If your unit is sh1te, do something about it, sort out a club or put in a PPP.
Couldn't agree more. I have had my time in a crap unit but made the most of it by getting stuck into sports and organising charity events. To be honest I organised them more for the CR and time pass than the charity money raised but it made the time pass quicker I am now about to go on another good posting. Effort is rewarded wherever you are regardless of what the whingers say!!!
 
#17
Seems to be an "auto-reply" on this website, "if you dont like it, you know where the door is"!

Have heard this rubbish all too often and then we wonder why the Corps is so strapped for manpower, thus forcing trawl upon trawl on the Ops Officer's desk.

If that is your answer in this day and age, then you my friend, have no place in this Army. Acknowledge the problems, address them and solve them.

The days when we could afford to lose blokes hand over fist belong in the times of BAOR in the 80s. I suspect you may still be carrying out your appointment as if you were operating in that era.

ZBM 2
 
#18
Is that what you are doing then? Helping out the manpower in the Corps before you can't wait to leave in 4 years? Taking one for the team are we?

I've always said regardless of how many are in my Tp, Sqn or Regt I would much rather work with 5 guys who want to be there and are willing to be there and get stuck in than 50 guys who don't. In any walk in life a happy worker is a good worker.
 
#19
What does my declaration of really looking forward to leaving the Corps and indeed the Army have to do with taking one for the team? The sort of statement made by a chav on the street.

Whitehall pays me a pretty decent salary and as such they will continue to get my total committment in every aspect of what it is to be a member of our Corps/Army. I will still run Battle Camps, MATT Camps, Mess Functions etc as I always have done, until it is time for me to start thinking about looking after number 1. That is widely acknowledged as being when you hit your 2 years to push point.

It is a very foolish person who pushes all the way to the bitter end and probably one who will end up badly prepared for his second career.

Again, ZBM 2
 
#20
heidtheba said:
Oh so urine off the blokes you already have, nice way of doing buisness.

And are all your blokes really short?
with all the hats we have to wear we are all really tall.

heres my jiff job hat, and this one is my phone bich hat, heres my brew bitch hat.... the list goes on but i dont want to reveal too much. (edited to add, come to think about it its the same everywhere!)

posting confirmed now... just have to wait 4 months for a replacement. :(
 

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