Disband the Yorkshire Regts campaign?

#1
stabtastic said:
Big_Al said:
Cue hearty rendition of 'On Ilkley moor....'

Come the revolution...
Yorks Volunteers? Now we're talking.....

That song was banned post Options and expunged from the memory of 15 Bde for ever more as it wasn't conducive to the 'new' loyalties of DWR, GH and PWO.

Pork pies and Fat Rascals in the rat packs? Taylor's tea? 'Morning sir' replaced by 'Now then young-un'?

Sounds good.
From talking to a few EWRR guys last weekend, they seemed pretty keen to loose their parent regiment cap badges and go back to their Yorks Vols badges (which was the old Yorkshire Bde badge). Even those that left 'post options' seem to be happy with the upcoming change.
 
#2
Read the title and thought "I'll fill this tosser" in. Just shows how hasty you can be; it's not what I thought it would be about after all.

I don't know. Personally speaking I'm very proud of my post 1992 cap-badge, which reeks of tradition and takes-up where the post-WW2 restructuring left off.

But I know some people hanker after a Yorks vols Bde, with a Lionheart thrown in. I think all of that went out with 3rd Shock Army, SLRs and tin lids though. You can't recapture those days I'm afraid.

I'll get stuck into a new Yorks Regt - we have to, but I can see a remarkably small amount of TACs in the new TA Bn....
 
#3
polar said:
stabtastic said:
Big_Al said:
Cue hearty rendition of 'On Ilkley moor....'

Come the revolution...
Yorks Volunteers? Now we're talking.....

That song was banned post Options and expunged from the memory of 15 Bde for ever more as it wasn't conducive to the 'new' loyalties of DWR, GH and PWO.

Pork pies and Fat Rascals in the rat packs? Taylor's tea? 'Morning sir' replaced by 'Now then young-un'?

Sounds good.
From talking to a few EWRR guys last weekend, they seemed pretty keen to loose their parent regiment cap badges and go back to their Yorks Vols badges (which was the old Yorkshire Bde badge). Even those that left 'post options' seem to be happy with the upcoming change.

Yorks Volunteers LOL. Perhaps Minden Company (Light Infantry) could re-form as the 4th Battalion, The King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. Just to throw a spanner in the works
 
#4
Cpl_ripper said:
Yorks Volunteers LOL. Perhaps Minden Company (Light Infantry) could re-form as the 4th Battalion, The King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. Just to throw a spanner in the works
They already tried that - Kings Own Yorkshire (Light Infantry) Yeomanry :D (when 8(Y)LI was disbanded)
Same badge as KOYLI but with two crossed lancers in the background. The LI element is most likely rejoin the reformed 5LI, being replaced by GH coys from the disbanded Tyne Tees TV Regt

You also forget to mention Hallams (Yorks and Lancs) the TA still keep trying hang onto that title, (they kept their battle honours alive by naming one of the DWR Coys Fontennay).

But back to my original post, the EWRR + GH seem to be quite happy about this merger, guess if all 3 regular Bn's (as they should do for an area of the size of Yorkshire) survive so will they too?

Anyway what about the a Yorkshire Regt with 'traditional' Yorkshire dress (flat cap instead of berret?)
 
#5
polar said:
But back to my original post, the EWRR + GH seem to be quite happy about this merger, guess if all 3 regular Bn's (as they should do for an area of the size of Yorkshire) survive so will they too?
I belive from rumour control At RHQ that this will become 4 Bn Yorkshire regt (V) with each coy retaining its parent cap badge. Each of the 3 reg Bns will or should keep their own cap badge, as In the London Regt.

polar said:
Anyway what about the a Yorkshire Regt with 'traditional' Yorkshire dress (flat cap instead of berret?)
Of course, and the CO should ditch the black labador and replace it with a whippet :lol:
 
#6
Cpl_ripper said:
Each of the 3 reg Bns will or should keep their own cap badge
Hope thats true.

but it is upsetting peeps/English

Karen said:
Dunno.

But if the recent currant bun and the nazigraph articles are true the KINGS Div is split down the middle – West of the Pennines has been cast adrift and Yorkshire is fighting to preserve 3 battalions in one county. No surprises there but the Yorkshire lobby know that they are on dangerous ground, lacking popular appeal except in their county and clearly afraid to embrace the large regiment concept they've happily foisted on the rest of the division. So, why not try and drag someone else down instead? The problem is that if they escape again dogmonkey's view then takes over and ECAB are in a corner. Having run away from their original direction ECAB are in danger of skewing their decision making process even further by following lines of least resistance, taking an easy option because they may think SofS will overturn/modify any decision they may make – wrong; the ground is being prepared by everyone, the politicos will hide behind 'the Army's decision'. Catch 22.
:cry:

Mushrooms at least get a square meal now and again.
 
#7
Sadly the Yorkshire Battalions were amongst the first to adopt the large regiment proposals, and happily embraced the concept as it makes perfect sense for a county that supports at least 4 Battalions (PWO, DWR, GH, Coldm Gds) to go large and stay intact.

Their gripe was that losing one of those Bns does not make sense - what happens to the potential recruits that would not find employment? Suddenly become Scottish???

Therefore, they rightly pointed out that we must look long term and look at how many Bns each population centre can support. Yorkshire does well now and in the future, Scotland does not, and therefore Scotland must lose two battalions. Otherwise, in 2008 we will be doing this all again.

Others, with less moral fibre, stated that Scots Div would be unfairly treated if they lost 2 bns (whilst Kings Div would be fairly treated by losing two) and therefore shifted the focus elsewhere, sadly on another English Div.

The simple facts are:

Scotland cannot support 5 Inf Bns (even with trg moving to Fort George to avoid wastage - the 30% wastage rates apply to ALL Infantry Bns not just Scots at Catterick and 11% wastage at ATR Glencorse applied to the English recruits from Kings Div trained there as well - so the distance argument does not hold up)

Yorkshire can support 4 Bns now and in the future.

The Yorkshire Bns did not switch fire onto Queens Div - that was CGS after his mauling by the Commons Defence Committee in November.

If this is not managed correctly we are just saving problems for 5 years time.

I am happy to be shot down by all and sundry!
 
#8
Save Yorkshire Regiments Campaign

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/4072717.stm

BBC North said:
Women stage rooftop Army protest

The two women say the regiment has too much local history to be lost
Two women are staging a rooftop protest over Army restructuring plans which could see an historic Yorkshire regiment being disbanded.

An Army Board committee is meeting on Monday to discuss the restructuring proposals.

Mary Lister and Christine Dobson have ties with the Duke of Wellington's Regiment and have climbed on top of Keighley's Territorial Army building.

Mrs Lister said the regiment, currently in Iraq, was much needed.

Infantry men

Mrs Lister's 37-year-old brother, Cpl Tommy Thompson, is a member of the Dukes, the county regiment for West and South Yorkshire, and will be in Iraq over Christmas.

She said: "This is the second time he has been sent to Iraq.

"The Army is always going to need infantry men. It doesn't matter how the army is modernised, they will always need the infantry."

Cpl Thompson is the third generation of his family to join the Dukes.

Stay overnight

"Our great uncle, also called Tommy Thompson, was decorated in World War I and lost his life during the Battle of the Somme.

"The regiment has one of the best recruitment numbers in the Army. A lot of local men join the Dukes and it has a lot of local history."

The women started their protest at 7.30am on Monday and were prepared to stay overnight.

Friends and supporters are keeping them supplied with cups of coffee.

"We know nothing will be decided to day but we will be down at Westminster next week to make our views knows," Mrs Lister said.
 
#9
They have the right idea. there should be no cuts at all

too bad there is only two of them, puts all the other Yorkies to shame.
 
#11
As they sing at the rugby - KEIGHLEY KEIGHLEY BOING BOING! They'll be down by now like enough as the Volunteers has been open for several hours, though.
 
#12
Keighley? They're probably nicking the lead of the TA centre roof. The caretaker's probably in on it. :lol:

However, seriously, and serious grave face on, nodding sagely, I say 'well done Mrs'. Would that all TA centres had a staunch legion of Mrs-Stabs holed up on the roof come cuts-time.
 

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