Disabled "entitled" to jobs.

#1
svenny said:
Did You know that any company employing over 110 people is supposed by law to have a certain amount of disabled people on their books.
1. No, I did not, why is this?
2. What happens if they dont?
3. Do haulage companies have to do this also?
4. Are any companies exempt? (Cept us, of course I know we are.)

Link?
 
#2
why 110? what good would someone who sleeps on the job do by making 111? Surely that would count as a minus, taking the number of staff BELOW 110, thus creating a self fulfilling prophecy that all such quotas are utter bollacks.
 

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#5
You would be suprised what coun'ts as disabled
If a wagon driver (to answer your haulage question) comes up with a medical excuse say not to drive at night and he has to drive in the dark sometimes (morning and early evening) under the disability act you must find him a job that lets him work only days even if it isn't driving but sitting in the warehouse answering the phone

The amount of peolpe out in Civdiv working their ticket would amaze you
 
#6
No they dont
EX_REME said:
svenny said:
Did You know that any company employing over 110 people is supposed by law to have a certain amount of disabled people on their books.
1. No, I did not, why is this?
2. What happens if they dont?
3. Do haulage companies have to do this also?
4. Are any companies exempt? (Cept us, of course I know we are.)

Link?
 
#7
Spanish_Dave said:
No they dont
EX_REME said:
svenny said:
Did You know that any company employing over 110 people is supposed by law to have a certain amount of disabled people on their books.
1. No, I did not, why is this?
2. What happens if they dont?
3. Do haulage companies have to do this also?
4. Are any companies exempt? (Cept us, of course I know we are.)

Link?
Shock, horror, sven talking through his arrse but claiming to know everything. Is anybody surprised?
 
#8
So all those ex service blokes with limbs missing etc are to be lumped in with the scroungersw and denied a job because blokes on here can't get it into their heads that all civvies aren't dole scroungers and benefit cheats. As it ever struck you that your parents for example are civvies. The attitude of a lot of blokes on this site really stinks.And before anyone says it, this isn't the NAAFi thread.
 
#9
craftsmanx said:
So all those ex service blokes with limbs missing etc are to be lumped in with the scroungersw and denied a job because blokes on here can't get it into their heads that all civvies aren't dole scroungers and benefit cheats. As it ever struck you that your parents for example are civvies. The attitude of a lot of blokes on this site really stinks.And before anyone says it, this isn't the NAAFi thread.
Mate I'd expect to be decked if I was such a low life as to lump soldiers who'd suffered injuries on operations with people like sven.

This is about calling him to account for his comments.

He lies and then when asked to front up runs off to mummy or falls asleep. Nothing about dissing soldiers wounded while on ops.
 
#11
I don't know what the Sven connection is, but I was shocked last week when my girlfriend told me about the legislation- she thought it was a good thing, but if I was I was a company director, I'd look askance at having to employ people with Downs' Syndrome, say (who are covered by the Act), in place of more..er..productive employees.

I assumed the Armed Forces, Police etc have exemption, not sure who else does.
 
#12
Rumpelstiltskin said:
I don't know what the Sven connection is, but I was shocked last week when my girlfriend told me about the legislation- she thought it was a good thing, but if I was I was a company director, I'd look askance at having to employ people with Downs' Syndrome, say (who are covered by the Act), in place of more..er..productive employees.

I assumed the Armed Forces, Police etc have exemption, not sure who else does.
Yes they do.
 
#13
the idea behind it was to give opportunites to Genuine disabled people who would not have been given any opportunity to work, hence the existence of Remploy, as well as companies employing them in order to give them a quality of life, they can also be very productive and save on welfare benefits, it is also better for them as they will lead productive fullfiling lives, even those with Downs sydrome have souls and feelings like you and me, should be given this chance, this will have an added benefit of exposing employees to people who are less fortunate than themselves then they will stop moaning about how shit their life is once they look at them for one minute.
 
#14
Some folk who are classed as disabled have very little wrong with them, if you have one epileptic seizure a year you get the same protection as a person in a wheelchair under the disabiity discrimination act (DDA). There are hundreds of disabled civis who want to work but employers won't take them on - so if (god forbid) you are medically discharged because of a health problem you may be very grateful to the DDA and the quota of "disabled employees" companies must employ.
As for people with downs - some of them work in the supermarkets and do okay & before you slag off shop assistants someone has to do the job, its normally women as its low paid but as its working with the public your likely to be assaulted just for doing the job.
I agree with some of the other posters that some of the attitudes to civillians stinks, a lot of us support you because we come from forces families so when you dis the civis you dis your support network as well.
 
#15
semper said:
even those with Downs sydrome have souls and feelings like you and me
I know, I just wouldn't want one sat behind the screen in an air traffic control tower 8O
 
#16
There is no such thing as a quota

Curve15 said:
Some folk who are classed as disabled have very little wrong with them, if you have one epileptic seizure a year you get the same protection as a person in a wheelchair under the disabiity discrimination act (DDA). There are hundreds of disabled civis who want to work but employers won't take them on - so if (god forbid) you are medically discharged because of a health problem you may be very grateful to the DDA and the quota of "disabled employees" companies must employ.
As for people with downs - some of them work in the supermarkets and do okay & before you slag off shop assistants someone has to do the job, its normally women as its low paid but as its working with the public your likely to be assaulted just for doing the job.
I agree with some of the other posters that some of the attitudes to civillians stinks, a lot of us support you because we come from forces families so when you dis the civis you dis your support network as well.
 
#17
I actually think its a good idea, there's a lot of disabled people after work and conversely a lot of skivers claiming disability, this law takes the excuses about lack of opportunities away from them.

Anyway, these people usually end up working in the public sector making up the numbers so they get money from the same pot (Taxpayers) but at least have had to work for it.

My brother in law is disabled you know, he has an ulcer, very sad really, has to sit at home all day.
 
#18
Rumpelstiltskin said:
semper said:
even those with Downs sydrome have souls and feelings like you and me
I know, I just wouldn't want one sat behind the screen in an air traffic control tower 8O
lol , naturally not, It would down to training and qualifications before you do any job.
 
#19
Now in my second life in civdiv I am an employer and have to try and live with this employ a gimp farce, there are so many things that can classify you as being a gimp it is a joke and nothing to worry about. I could probably qualify for special gimp grants all on my own for having alcoholic, dyslexic, bad back, dodgy knees and homophobic tendencies....oh and for being backward at spelling as well. If anyone disagrees I will fall into the disability of being persecuted.
 
#20
wet_blobby said:
Now in my second life in civdiv I am an employer and have to try and live with this employ a gimp farce, there are so many things that can classify you as being a gimp it is a joke and nothing to worry about. I could probably qualify for special gimp grants all on my own for having alcoholic, dyslexic, bad back, dodgy knees and homophobic tendencies....oh and for being backward at spelling as well. If anyone disagrees I will fall into the disability of being persecuted.
I disagree.
 

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