Dioramas

#1
Does anyone have experience with building these things? I am thinking about knocking one up for my son for Christmas, maybe base it on one of the Call of Duty Maps, if anyone has any Top Tips/Pics of Dioramas they have made etc. could you post below...

Appreciated :wink:
 
#3
Depends what your after, as geeky as it sounds im a dab hand at military modelling. Let me know what you are thinking and I will give you some ideas on resources/materials/limitations etc.
 
#5
He likes Call of Duty 5... I was thinking maybe to try and build the scene with based on the Seelow Map... I've never built a Diorama and the last Airfix type model I built was around 1975 when I was 7! Do you think this may be a Diorama Too Far :?

Here is the Map, just found in Google, looks quite complicated?

 
#6
That looks like it would have to be done on about an 4 ft by 6ft board if you wanted any real kind of detail to it. But as was said earlier - depends on the scale you are looking at. That would be a very ambitious, but rewarding project.
 
#7
Bolo-Driller said:
That looks like it would have to be done on about an 4 ft by 6ft board if you wanted any real kind of detail to it. But as was said earlier - depends on the scale you are looking at. That would be a very ambitious, but rewarding project.
I think the only feasible scale would be very small like 1:76 ?

Obviously it won't look exactly like that but if I can get the basics in that he knows and will recognise i.e. the railway embankment and bridges, not sure about that tunnel below though?! maybe a pull out section could be possible.
 
#8
Mr_Deputy said:
Hello (I know I should be engaged in a kind of diorama of my own but I am work at the mo!) I used to make these as a lad while my social life was rather affected by us building a house. I got pretty good.
One tip I might recommend is using plaster.

To create ground you simply take a piece of ply and cover in plaster to form roads, paths, sand, etc or a mix - whatever your setting - would be quite fun to do with your lad in way as you can add foot prints and vehicle tracks etc. You might try knocking a few tacks into the board first to create a 'key' for the plaster. Dependon the depth of the plaster. Paint with aryclic or other matt paints. Can use grass, bushes that train modellers etc use.

Plaster can be used also for walls etc. I used to make blasted, pock-marked house walls, knocked-down low brick and stone walls. Put plaster into a mould or just shape into a block (spaces for any windows - easier than cutting out when dry - might crack) let dry and then add on details to the already dry section and let the whole thing dry hard. Walls of a large building can be done in sections and then plaster used to fill in the seals realistically. I think I sealed it with washes of glue afterwards then painted realistically.

Balsa is ideal for timbers.

I did a scene approx 1.5’ x 1’ where some Ruskies were creeping as yet unobserved into a destroyed German-held house, their backs against far wall looking round a corner. The rest of the diorama was the other side of the wrecked house - German troops in the mud of a road trying to keep warm around a brazier and unloading water and ammo from a Kettenkrad half track bike. It was probably impossible militarily/tactically… I think the idea was that with the supply drop in the freezing weather they had let their guard down – their last mistake. I was only ten.
Cheers Mr_Deputy, I can relate to Plaster having broken 4 bones and also from my 'Leak, Seal & Packaging of Chemical Munitions' days in 33 8O
 
#9
So that's what dioramas are! I always thought they were just designer jim-jams. You live and learn.

MsG
 
#10
The easiest way of doing it would be to mount a thick layer of polystyrene onto an MDF board and use a hot wire cutter to cut into the material. Once this has been cut to the desired shape you can use PVA glue and sand to give it texture before painting. Alternatively you could use moddelling "flock". Depends on if you want a desert or temperate environment.
 
#11
depending on your available space/funds/attention span
you could do a fair job with almost all of it ready made except for the base/land
trees from train hobby shops same goes for buildings, trees, walls etc , there are dozens of manufacturers in most scales upto 1/6th
1/76 or 1/72 is fairly easy to source
1/48 a little harder
1/35 is fairly easy too.

Just a thought, use a pasting table as a base, they are fairly cheap, and at a height suitable for smaller folk, and if more is required they can be made to fit together relatively easily.
 
#12
Mr_Deputy said:
Hello (I know I should be engaged in a kind of diorama of my own but I am work at the mo!) I used to make these as a lad while my social life was rather affected by us building a house. I got pretty good.
One tip I might recommend is using plaster.

To create ground you simply take a piece of ply and cover in plaster to form roads, paths, sand, etc or a mix - whatever your setting - would be quite fun to do with your lad in way as you can add foot prints and vehicle tracks etc. You might try knocking a few tacks into the board first to create a 'key' for the plaster. Dependon the depth of the plaster. Paint with aryclic or other matt paints. Can use grass, bushes that train modellers etc use.

Plaster can be used also for walls etc. I used to make blasted, pock-marked house walls, knocked-down low brick and stone walls. Put plaster into a mould or just shape into a block (spaces for any windows - easier than cutting out when dry - might crack) let dry and then add on details to the already dry section and let the whole thing dry hard. Walls of a large building can be done in sections and then plaster used to fill in the seals realistically. I think I sealed it with washes of glue afterwards then painted realistically.

Balsa is ideal for timbers.

I did a scene approx 1.5’ x 1’ where some Ruskies were creeping as yet unobserved into a destroyed German-held house, their backs against far wall looking round a corner. The rest of the diorama was the other side of the wrecked house - German troops in the mud of a road trying to keep warm around a brazier and unloading water and ammo from a Kettenkrad half track bike. It was probably impossible militarily/tactically… I think the idea was that with the supply drop in the freezing weather they had let their guard down – their last mistake. I was only ten.
I think that sounds very feasible, I saw a suggestion in one of those sites about making all the contours with architect paper, whatever that is! couldn't find it in Google... and then like you say use accu-plast plaster bandages...
 
#14
Oh Gundulph. Leak seal & package. Mmmmmmmmm, was trying to forget all that BCMD stuff but PoP bandages would be ideal for covering large areas of ground. I've used that builders gap filling foam as a base in the past. Been a while since any modelling though.
 
#15
Cheers Mick_Sterbs... Good looking site and beats making everything!

General_Melchett,

I forgot about those foam spray cans we used hundreds of on 'other' projects in 33... cheers for the memories :roll: :wink:
 
#16
You could also consider the 1/300 scale (roughly 1mm to 1') used by some wargamers. That would keep the size of the project down.
Passable trees and woods can be made by sculpting bits of foam with pliers, 'neat' hedges from strips of green scouring pad; all painted of course.
There also used to be a vast range off vehicles available in that scale if that's the way it's heading.
 
#17
or just invest a little time going through the model part of e-bay
usually loads on there to cut corners/save building time

if i'm ever made redundant, it'll be my main source of income, scale GSE for civil airliners!
 
#18
mick_sterbs said:
or just invest a little time going through the model part of e-bay
usually loads on there to cut corners/save building time

if i'm ever made redundant, it'll be my main source of income, scale GSE for civil airliners!
Is there a link to this m_s?
 

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