Just wondering if any other members can shed more light onto the ongoing/extra costs of DII(F)? Whilst serving I was often astonished at the costs of spares etc. I understand that manufacturers need to make a profit and recover R&D costsâ¦but often, what they charge is a joke. So onto DII(F)â¦ If a User Access Device (UAD) commonly known as a computerâ¦.needs to be moved from TAP (Terminal access point) to TAP, it costs the TLB of the Unit originating the move 107 quidâ¦but it doesnât end there. It will cost an extra 800+ if the UAD needs to be patched and the port opened on the switch. So âSgt Aâ submits a move request to G6 who process the paperwork and submit it to ATLAS. ATLAS then log it on their system and flag it as âawaiting user responseâ bit like me sending you a letter, it drops through your letter box and after a week I ring asking you to open itâ¦.the rational from ATLAS? Well the clocks stopped on the request (RFC), SLA has been stalled because weâre waiting for the customer. When they finally get around to answering the request they send an email response to G6 (I have seen such an email)â¦before the move takes place G6 have to agree to the following that A) it will cost 107 quid and B) it could cost an extra 800+ if connectivity is requiredâ¦and the IT illiterate (mostly) civil servants at G6 sign offâ¦because after all itâs not their money being wasted. So whatâs the extra 800 quid? You may ask. Without going into detail about MS22, IPL and the MEP stages â¦ basically once the amount of DII(F) terminals that a building can have has been agreed then ATLAS can plan the passive and active network infrastructure e.g. TAPâs cabling, NER (network equipment room) placement, amount of switches, WAN runs etc. So ATLAS will know where every UAD is placed, what TAP it is connected to, what Patch panel that TAP terminates at and what switch and port the patch lead plugs into. The same is true with printers. By design there are always more TAPs than UADâs and spare switch capacity. Any TAP that isnât utilised ATLAS donât patch and any switch port that isnât used ATLAS admin disable. To enable a port and physically patch in a TAP ATLAS charge 800+ quid. To enable a port on a CISCO switch takes about 5 minutes. My view is that all TAPS should be patched and that all ports should be opened. If security is the driver for not doing so i.e. stops UADâs, laptops etc being plugged into a spare TAP to have a sniff of the networkâ¦then whatâs stopping someone unplugging a live UAD and using that TAPâ¦the threat is already inside the wire. ATLAS donât tie down ports to MAC addresses so the only reason they donât enable spare ports is to charge the MoD for doing soâ¦Nothing to do with security. Because of this I know of several occasions were local ATLAS hardware engineers have moved a UAD/Printer from A to B and the thing just sits there for a week or two because the Port hasnât been enabled â¦ that honour goes to someone working in Newcastle. The only âon the groundâ support ATLAS provide are hardware âengineersâ all other support 1st 2nd 3rd line is provided by the Data centre back in the UK. And now my post has turned into âwar and pieceâ Recently a move of 20+ UADâs from one garrison to anotherâ¦.disconnect them, transport them, patch them in and enable the ports cost the MoD 13 Grand! 1800 quid was just to patch them in! I recently asked a G6 type if moves etc were part of the overall DII costsâ¦the answer was an affirmative no. I was informed that the cost of moves etc comes from local TLBâs. I then asked what would happen if the amount of moves exceeded the TLB budget within a financial yearâ¦he answered âwell they would just get the money from somewhere elseâ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/16/digby-jones-says-sack-civil-servants From my experience I totally agree with Digby. Anyway I can see the rational for having one platform that encompasses all 3 servicesâ¦but when that new platform is based on the same NOS then why not just join trees and create the forest?? Any remarks, criticisms, corrections will be appreciated.