Digital Storage help

Auld-Yin

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#1
I have recently upgraded my BT Broadband a/c -after BT making me check other providers then matching them; I got a good deal but FFS could they not have done that in the first place!!!!:spiderman:

Anyway part of the deal is 5Gb of Digital Vault storage free or £5 pm for 50 Gb.

Question 1 - are these data storage vaults a good idead for backing up files etc or should I use disks?

Q2 - If OK, is £5 pm fair price and value for money? Obviously being a poor pensioner yet still coffin dodging, the best option is a free system!!:nod:

BTW, 5Gb is not big enough for my files etc so I would have to look for the higher option.

Lastly - is the opinion of Arrse using the greater wisdom of all posters (well greater than mine) for or against Date Storage Vaults?

I thank yew.
 
#2
Personally I have a 500Gb external HDD which I backup on a regular basis, cost me £40. I then bought a firesafe for £50 which covers my HDD and the paperwork I have at home.

Remember one thing about online data storage - you need to get the data there and back again. Your upload speed is liekly to be quite slow so if you are sending Gb of data it may take some time.

S_R
 
#3
I have recently upgraded my BT Broadband a/c -after BT making me check other providers then matching them; I got a good deal but FFS could they not have done that in the first place!!!!:spiderman:

Anyway part of the deal is 5Gb of Digital Vault storage free or £5 pm for 50 Gb.

Question 1 - are these data storage vaults a good idead for backing up files etc or should I use disks?

Q2 - If OK, is £5 pm fair price and value for money? Obviously being a poor pensioner yet still coffin dodging, the best option is a free system!!:nod:

BTW, 5Gb is not big enough for my files etc so I would have to look for the higher option.

Lastly - is the opinion of Arrse using the greater wisdom of all posters (well greater than mine) for or against Date Storage Vaults?

I thank yew.
One of the reasons behind these "reasonable and inclusive" data storage deals, is it potentially locks you into that supplier, as moving supplier means either moving the data (and 50Gb is a lot of data if you go for it) or losing it permanently...... A portable hard disk solution is more flexible, and probably a good deal cheaper if you calculate the cost of 10 X 50Gb X 1 year
 
#4
Personally I have a 500Gb external HDD which I backup on a regular basis, cost me £40. I then bought a firesafe for £50 which covers my HDD and the paperwork I have at home.

Remember one thing about online data storage - you need to get the data there and back again. Your upload speed is liekly to be quite slow so if you are sending Gb of data it may take some time.

S_R
External Hard drive certainly one way to go,Auld Yin.£50 -£60 from PC World.
 
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I use a WD 1.5 Tb <$100 external drive (Partition Magic to set up) and use that for music, images etc. Important personal stuff I do an incremental back up to CD-Rom every couple of weeks. If the online "Vault" people go tits-up ...
 

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Good advice there guys, I think I will get the HDD to backup my stuff.
Thanks for responding.
 
#9
But, Auld-Yin, if you buy the hardware you will be missing out on The Next Big Thing... Cloud Computing...!

Everything will soon be in The Cloud....

And, if you are not there, you will Be Square...!

Lits

(Buy a big USB drive or a Network Storage System; you know it makes financial (and IT) sense...).
 
#10
If its not too late for me to add: There are indeed some great deals out in the cloud - and the advantage being you can access your files from computer anywhere.

Some providers delete your files if they are unused for a certain time, otheres cost money, and some have quite a few limitations. By far the best deal, and the one I use is mediafire.com. The free account is so good, you don't need the "pro" version.

free account: unlimited storage (as many gigabytes as you want), they will not delete your files. (You have to log in once in a while, and they send you an e-mail to remind you). Only limitation (contra the "Pro" account) is that you can't upload individual files greater than 200Mbyte. (So if I have a large video file of several GBytes, I just pack it into a couple of .rar files).

Hope this helps !
 
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Go with Backblaze, Its just over £3 a month for unlimited continuous backup and they run a server in Ireland maintaining fast upload speeds.
I have just over a terabyte of data stored with them and once you get past the initial first time backup its brilliant, they use SSL security and you can also access all your files from the website worldwide which is a great feature.
 
#13
By the way i would recommend your own hard drive to backup your files as well, can never be to safe with important data, don't know what i would do if i lost all my porn!:)
 
#15
If your data is important do you trust a HDD to store it safely.
At least use two, alternate them and keep one offsite.
Hard disk drives have moving parts, making them susceptible to damage. The risk of this is heightened by the fact that they are also portable, meaning they withstand a lot more knocks than hard drives within a desktop tower. I personally use a 1TB hard drive for all the fun stuff (films, music, etc) and I burn a few DVD's full of stuff I don't want to lose (letters, photos, etc). My next step will be to acquire an external Bluray burner, just to minimise the amount of discs/time I currently use to make regular backups.

All this cloud talk is, to me, a load of bollocks which cannot be trusted.
 
#16
He he - for a "geeky" thread, there seems to be some "heavy" comments here.

I have something like 10 external hard drives (1Tbyte each) , and there are advantages/disadvantages with that. I have experienced drives going down, and also of course, they can only be used where they are physically stored.

So for me the cloud is an excellent supplement. The biggest advantage is access - you can access your files from anywhere with an Internet connection.

There is a security issue as I understand - I have never had problems myself, or heard of anyone who has. However, if anybody really does wish to "crack" my Mediafire account - they are quite welcome - all they will achieve is having to sit through hours and hours of family videos and pictures.

I use another (more secure site - Box.net) for sharing documents. Box is used by (amongst others) Dell, Oracle and Virgin - I haven't heard of any security issues with this site.

If used wisely, the cloud is a very useful supplement.
 
#17
He he - for a "geeky" thread, there seems to be some "heavy" comments here.

I have something like 10 external hard drives (1Tbyte each) , and there are advantages/disadvantages with that. I have experienced drives going down, and also of course, they can only be used where they are physically stored.

So for me the cloud is an excellent supplement. The biggest advantage is access - you can access your files from anywhere with an Internet connection.

There is a security issue as I understand - I have never had problems myself, or heard of anyone who has. However, if anybody really does wish to "crack" my Mediafire account - they are quite welcome - all they will achieve is having to sit through hours and hours of family videos and pictures.

I use another (more secure site - Box.net) for sharing documents. Box is used by (amongst others) Dell, Oracle and Virgin - I haven't heard of any security issues with this site.

If used wisely, the cloud is a very useful supplement.
Wow now that's allot of external drives, why not get a drobo and keep it all in one place and mirrored, that way when a drive fails everythings still there. Then setup your own cloud system using ssl and your good to go.
 
#19
Using 2 external drives mirrored for my back ups. Full back up once per month with incremental every week. With one drive being kept at my parents it gives good reason to visit even just for 10 mins every week. Therefore 2 drives with all data stored including 1 off site for security. got both drives for £80 at John Lewis. Iomega USB externals spot on.
 

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use a bit of both as it doesnt hurt to be able to keep some stuff out of the house and online so you can get to it from a friends or if yours get nicked/virused. hard drives do fail as I found out when a brand new drive failed after I copied everything onto it from 4 machines so I could sort it out properly. if you get an external drive then make sure its a powered one as they fail less often.

loads of free storage out there now, microsoft gives you 25gb free, dropbox 2gb, cx 10gb, 4 shared desktop 10 gb and so on.

cdr's and dvds can and do fail frequently when it comes to remaining readable so use it as a temp measure. as they say if you havent got three copies of it then its not important. you can compress your important stuff to an encrypted or passworded file and stick it up there until you need it.

never rely on usb sticks as the failure rate is frightening, an sd card if you have the slot is a better medium.
 
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