Did George Brown and the Labour Government unleash the present gambling explosion in Britain.

AlienFTM

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I Have a £1 accumulator on the football every Saturday, and a £1 e/w on the National. That's the sum total of my gambling (done from an app on my phone - I never go in a bookies).

Sometimes I win/cash out, sometimes I don't - It's just a bit of fun.

And that's the problem, as the adverts say - "when the fun stops, stop." Some people don't / can't get that. No amount of tightening the regulations will change what is happening out there, the toothpaste can't be squeezed back in.
There's somebody in our faction spùnks all his hard earned cash in the bookies. Millions he's lost. But you'd know this, since you're also in the faction.
 
It's not just the UK affected, it seems to be more accessible and acceptable across the board these days.
In our village bistro there are a couple of old boys who are there daily for a coffee and a scratch card.
At the weekends there are a couple more that come in, buy €100 worth each and make dust at the end of the bar for an hour or so.
That is a bit of a dent out of a monthly pension of €750 in some cases.
We really noticed it watching the ads on Danish TV about 18 months ago, out of each ad break there were anything up to 7 or 8 ads for online casinos and gambling in general, never noticed by either of us before on previous trips.
Add that to the mix of these professional online gamers up until the early hours, with the alleged potential to win fortunes.
Certainly in the case of France and Denmark the taxman will be right on top of things, and perhaps supervising a nice new deregulated revenue stream that wasn't there a while ago?
It is a lot more accessible and common now than in our formative years, as is disposable income too.
Not necessarily a good thing for the feckless and reckless minded in any country.

Great revenue stream for Governments paying out Billions in benefits and old age pensions.
Liberalise gambling, tax it and get a fair wedge of all that monety back
 
The old saw is as true today as ever, you never see a poor bookie.

Of all the "entertainments" available to man gambling is amongst the most pernicious, verging on the evil.
The late John Banks, a well known Glaswegian racecourse bookie once said “It's the bookies who drive the Rollses and the punters who take the 8.15 every day". Another quote was “A licensed betting office is a licence to print money, week in, week out, it just pours in”.

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LE
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Great revenue stream for Governments paying out Billions in benefits and old age pensions.
Liberalise gambling, tax it and get a fair wedge of all that monety back
Earnings from gambling winnings are not taxed, the levy on operators is charged at 15%
 
The late John Banks, a well known Glaswegian racecourse bookie once said “It's the bookies who drive the Rollses and the punters who take the 8.15 every day". Another quote was “A licensed betting office is a licence to print money, week in, week out, it just pours in”.

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As a young P.C. in the seventies whilst discussing gambling & corruption one of the old sweats said to me "You'l never see a bookies bag in a pawnbrokers shop"
 
The Bookie always wins .... except in the case of the Bovington Camp bookie behind the Greasy Spoon in 1962 who had a punter win day after day. A Tankie squaddie somehow managed to get a copy of the door key, an ordinary yale lock and would go in at night after the days racing and put winning betting slips in the pile. Got caught eventually.
 
There has been a huge rise in online gambling ads on TV nearly all promising ‘free’ money, ‘free’ spins, or some other ‘free’ inducements to what is know to be an addictive process.
Rise in gambling ad spend fuels fears over impact on children

It is absolutely forbidden for cigarette companies or producers of alcohol to even contemplate advertising in this manner, so why are these sited with a similar possible adverse impact be allowed to continue? There does seem to be a belated recognition of the problem.
Child gamblers on the rise as two-thirds of young people exposed to gambling TV ads

A growing problem amongst the young the combination of online gambling innovation and smartphone usage is proving increasingly inviting. Betting via phones has become as eas as ordering a takeaway. Some will find it fairly harmless fun, but others find themselves spiralling into debt, addiction and isolation.

Present legislation is presently not fit for purpose for the digital age, and policies should be reviewed to tackle Britain’s growing but hidden epidemic of gambling addiction.
 
The old saw is as true today as ever, you never see a poor bookie.

Of all the "entertainments" available to man gambling is amongst the most pernicious, verging on the evil.
A month or so ago I read somewhere about the 10 biggest tax payers in The UK. At number 2 was the founder of Bet 365, I think that’s the company, any way she set up this business in her shed and now it’s worth £millions. A very clever woman who has taken advantage of the new laws as well as a lot of very stupid people.
This one- Bet365 founder paid herself an 'obscene' £265m in 2017

Not surprising that fortunes have been made considering the surge in gambling’s profile. Those bloody annoying Ray Winstone ads every five minutes, in which he implores people to waste their hard earned on what I heard a professional gambler describe as the most profitable (for the bookies) type of bets.
I’d be shocked if some politician hadn’t found some lucre stuck to his greasy little mitts.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
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Gout Man

LE
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This one- Bet365 founder paid herself an 'obscene' £265m in 2017

Not surprising that fortunes have been made considering the surge in gambling’s profile. Those bloody annoying Ray Winstone ads every five minutes, in which he implores people to waste their hard earned on what I heard a professional gambler describe as the most profitable (for the bookies) type of bets.
I’d be shocked if some politician hadn’t found some lucre stuck to his greasy little mitts.
The Guardian. An obscene amount? She started that company from scratch, I’m grateful that she is paying all that tax, she’s probably got a very good accountant or several that work hard to save her company millions more in tax.
It’s a mugs game betting and the owner of Bet 365 is no mug.
I agree with the adverts, every advert break before during and after any sporting event, “right you slags, get your credit cards out, here’s the best odds Smith to score next 5-1, come on you slags, and gamble responsibly.”
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
Book Reviewer
This one- Bet365 founder paid herself an 'obscene' £265m in 2017

Not surprising that fortunes have been made considering the surge in gambling’s profile. Those bloody annoying Ray Winstone ads every five minutes, in which he implores people to waste their hard earned on what I heard a professional gambler describe as the most profitable (for the bookies) type of bets.
I’d be shocked if some politician hadn’t found some lucre stuck to his greasy little mitts.
The loss-making Guardian based in a tax haven? That one? That doesn't pay its fair share of taxes in the UK? Not envious of a seriously good profit making company that contributes to public funds? Not twisting facts at all then?
 
The loss-making Guardian based in a tax haven? That one? That doesn't pay its fair share of taxes in the UK? Not envious of a seriously good profit making company that contributes to public funds? Not twisting facts at all then?
Fair point, I’ll hold my hands up and say that the Guardian article was the first one to come up when I did the search.
 
I'm not affected by gambling, but I've known people whose lives were ruined by it,

I think it's the same sort of wiring in certain people's brains, like gaming for hours if not days, or getting addicted to class A drugs.

Personally, I do think, that the gambling gene shouldn't be encouraged by the parasites who prey on them.
 
About a quarter of the thieves I deal with claim they are stealing to fund gambling.
That is a turn up. Most of the shop lifters I took into custody from store detectives had drug habits. Around Camberwell, and The Elephant, it was expensive bottles of vitamins and razor blades which they sold cheap to stall holders in East Street and the well at the Elephant itself.
 
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