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Did 1 Para serve in Newry in 78

#1
Been going through a number of books about the army in northern ireland namely the British army in Ulster and the British army in northern ireland. In the latter it says 1 Para is in South armagh but did that include serving in Newry or Forkhill. Cause in the former it says the 2nd battlion light infantry served in them bases.
 
#2
Newry is technically in South Down, although part of it lies in Armagh. The TAOR was served by Bessbrook however which is very much in South Armagh but only about 10 miles out of Newry. Bessbrook was generally the feeder for Forkhill and XMG and the main QRF for the entire south of the province was based there, supported by a UDR QRF Platoon in Banbridge and DMSU/HQMSU units from Portadown and Armagh.

There was no army barracks in Newry if I remember correctly, not even a UDR Fort, so any squaddies there would have been based in the RUC Base (unless anyone remembers something I've forgotten).

Place is and was a shi1tehole in any case, as those of us who served there know. In fact you only have to drive through it and you'll form the same opinion.
 
#3
gauis said:
Been going through a number of books about the army in northern ireland namely the British army in Ulster and the British army in northern ireland. In the latter it says 1 Para is in South armagh but did that include serving in Newry or Forkhill. Cause in the former it says the 2nd battlion light infantry served in them bases.
1 Para were roulement Bn in S.Armagh from March 78 for 4 months. I know because they relieved my own Bn. They did not have a Coy. in Newry's as we did but handed it over to 2LI who were on an 18mth. residential tour in Ballykinler. Prior to that they (2LI) would send a platoon to each of the Coys in XMG, Forkhill and Newtownhamilton, the Paras concentrated on these three exclusively. Incidentally, this was 1 Para's first tour since leaving the Province after Bloody Sunday.
 
#4
Jaeger said:
gauis said:
Been going through a number of books about the army in northern ireland namely the British army in Ulster and the British army in northern ireland. In the latter it says 1 Para is in South armagh but did that include serving in Newry or Forkhill. Cause in the former it says the 2nd battlion light infantry served in them bases.
1 Para were roulement Bn in S.Armagh from March 78 for 4 months. I know because they relieved my own Bn. They did not have a Coy. in Newry's as we did but handed it over to 2LI who were on an 18mth. residential tour in Ballykinler. Prior to that they (2LI) would send a platoon to each of the Coys in XMG, Forkhill and Newtownhamilton, the Paras concentrated on these three exclusively. Incidentally, this was 1 Para's first tour since leaving the Province after Bloody Sunday.
You must've worked from the Cop Shop then?

BTW NTH was taken off the roulemont at some point after that. It became a weekly rotation between BB and various UDR Forts where there were full-time rifle companies. I'm tempted to say that 2 and 11 shared most of the burden but I'm wary that somebody from 7/10 is going to chip up and say "we woz there loadsa times pal".
 
#7
I was out in S/Armagh early eighties, the roulemont locs were 1Platoon at Forkhill 1pl at NTH Half coy at Keady other half at Middletown, 1coy at xmg, 1 coy at BBK. 1 platoon permanant QRF AT BBK.
HQ coy were in Armagh

the BBK COY did patrol Newry I remember the Derrybeg well. and we walked there.
 
#8
taggytwo said:
I was out in S/Armagh early eighties, the roulemont locs were 1Platoon at Forkhill 1pl at NTH Half coy at Keady other half at Middletown, 1coy at xmg, 1 coy at BBK. 1 platoon permanant QRF AT BBK.
HQ coy were in Armagh

the BBK COY did patrol Newry I remember the Derrybeg well. and we walked there.
Ah, the old Middletown, Keady and Caledon run. VCP's to boredom time then back to Ma & Pa's for tea and scones.
 
#9
GDav said:
Jaeger said:
gauis said:
Been going through a number of books about the army in northern ireland namely the British army in Ulster and the British army in northern ireland. In the latter it says 1 Para is in South armagh but did that include serving in Newry or Forkhill. Cause in the former it says the 2nd battlion light infantry served in them bases.
1 Para were roulement Bn in S.Armagh from March 78 for 4 months. I know because they relieved my own Bn. They did not have a Coy. in Newry's as we did but handed it over to 2LI who were on an 18mth. residential tour in Ballykinler. Prior to that they (2LI) would send a platoon to each of the Coys in XMG, Forkhill and Newtownhamilton, the Paras concentrated on these three exclusively. Incidentally, this was 1 Para's first tour since leaving the Province after Bloody Sunday.
You must've worked from the Cop Shop then?
The one in XMG, yes.

BaldricksBullet wrote:

Hmmm... Jaeger.... is that as in Jæger??? That doesn't make sense.
He's either a hunter or else he sells tweed jackets.
Or can't spell Jager?
 
#10
GDav said:
Newry is technically in South Down, although part of it lies in Armagh. The TAOR was served by Bessbrook however which is very much in South Armagh but only about 10 miles out of Newry. Bessbrook was generally the feeder for Forkhill and XMG and the main QRF for the entire south of the province was based there, supported by a UDR QRF Platoon in Banbridge and DMSU/HQMSU units from Portadown and Armagh.

There was no army barracks in Newry if I remember correctly, not even a UDR Fort, so any squaddies there would have been based in the RUC Base (unless anyone remembers something I've forgotten).

Place is and was a shi1tehole in any case, as those of us who served there know. In fact you only have to drive through it and you'll form the same opinion.
Bessbrook isn't even that far out of Newry. More or less on the outskirts.

As you say Newry is only just in Co Down - think the old county boundary runs down the Clanrye. It's not quite as much of a sh1thole as it once was but certainly wouldn't be top of my list of somewhere to move to. There are some decent old buildings from Georgian times but it's still a bit dodgy and run-down.

Don't think there were ever any barracks there - think they always went for slightly more hospitable environments like Warrenpoint / Bessbrook / NTH.
 
#11
clownbasher said:
GDav said:
Newry is technically in South Down, although part of it lies in Armagh. The TAOR was served by Bessbrook however which is very much in South Armagh but only about 10 miles out of Newry. Bessbrook was generally the feeder for Forkhill and XMG and the main QRF for the entire south of the province was based there, supported by a UDR QRF Platoon in Banbridge and DMSU/HQMSU units from Portadown and Armagh.

There was no army barracks in Newry if I remember correctly, not even a UDR Fort, so any squaddies there would have been based in the RUC Base (unless anyone remembers something I've forgotten).

Place is and was a shi1tehole in any case, as those of us who served there know. In fact you only have to drive through it and you'll form the same opinion.
Bessbrook isn't even that far out of Newry. More or less on the outskirts.

As you say Newry is only just in Co Down - think the old county boundary runs down the Clanrye. It's not quite as much of a sh1thole as it once was but certainly wouldn't be top of my list of somewhere to move to. There are some decent old buildings from Georgian times but it's still a bit dodgy and run-down.

Don't think there were ever any barracks there - think they always went for slightly more hospitable environments like Warrenpoint / Bessbrook / NTH.
There was no barracks in Warrenpoint or Rostrevor. Never really needed. They did have RUC Stations of course.
 
#12
Jaeger said:
GDav said:
Jaeger said:
gauis said:
Been going through a number of books about the army in northern ireland namely the British army in Ulster and the British army in northern ireland. In the latter it says 1 Para is in South armagh but did that include serving in Newry or Forkhill. Cause in the former it says the 2nd battlion light infantry served in them bases.
1 Para were roulement Bn in S.Armagh from March 78 for 4 months. I know because they relieved my own Bn. They did not have a Coy. in Newry's as we did but handed it over to 2LI who were on an 18mth. residential tour in Ballykinler. Prior to that they (2LI) would send a platoon to each of the Coys in XMG, Forkhill and Newtownhamilton, the Paras concentrated on these three exclusively. Incidentally, this was 1 Para's first tour since leaving the Province after Bloody Sunday.
You must've worked from the Cop Shop then?
The one in XMG, yes.
I meant the one in Newry.
 
#13
GDav said:
There was no barracks in Warrenpoint or Rostrevor. Never really needed. They did have RUC Stations of course.
Thought those caught at Narrow Water were coming from somewhere down there? Warrenpoint, Rostrevor, Kilkeel way?
 
#14
clownbasher said:
GDav said:
There was no barracks in Warrenpoint or Rostrevor. Never really needed. They did have RUC Stations of course.
Thought those caught at Narrow Water were coming from somewhere down there? Warrenpoint, Rostrevor, Kilkeel way?
They could have been coming from Kilkeel, Ballykinlar, or any other area along the south Down coast. My recollection is they were returning to BB. Can't remember if it was Ops or Trg.

There was a barracks at Narrow Water but it was on the other side of the Lough at the Omeath Border Crossing. Accomodation for Plt strength. (real bloody flea pit).
 
#15
[quote="
There was no army barracks in Newry if I remember correctly, not even a UDR Fort, so any squaddies there would have been based in the RUC Base (unless anyone remembers something I've forgotten).

Place is and was a shi1tehole in any case, as those of us who served there know. In fact you only have to drive through it and you'll form the same opinion.[/quote]
There was never any army/udr base in Newry. I was back there 2 months ago, still a hole except for 1 thing:
They keep their christmas shopping centres open until 11:pm and close the bars. This has reduced the number of deaths on the roads due to dwi incidents. A place can't be all bad whatever the appearance.
:brilsmurf: :brilsmurf:
 
#16
Hi, I was in 2LI based at Ballykinler 77-79 we took over from the 1st Black Watch, and then handed over to 2 Para in 79, we were based in Newry at the UDR Base just farther up than the court house, we covered Newry in company strength, one month in three out, also guarding the Ruc Station in the town centre, then all patrols ect, then whilst back in Ballykinler providing cover for the whole province for any incident's ect, and I know there was RM patrols on the waterway near Warrenpoint.

hope this helps

Micky M
 
#17
taggytwo said:
I was out in S/Armagh early eighties, the roulemont locs were 1Platoon at Forkhill 1pl at NTH Half coy at Keady other half at Middletown, 1coy at xmg, 1 coy at BBK. 1 platoon permanant QRF AT BBK.
HQ coy were in Armagh

the BBK COY did patrol Newry I remember the Derrybeg well. and we walked there.
Same detail as I was there early 80s. Hmm the Derrybeg, done a 2man OP there in someones back garden for 5 days.

In fact, come to think of it we had two Company's in BBK with one of the Coy's providing the Pln at NTH. We had another Coy in XMG, a Pln in Middletown, Pln in Keady and another in FKL. The other Coy at BBK who didn't supply the Pln at NTH provided QRF and ARF. Camp security was provided by some of the HQ Coy guys who were also based at BBK.

BT. :D

BT.
 
#19
Ringmain said:
There was even a choggie in the base (Newry) serving all the usual refinaries
Ah the choggie. The one in BBK ran a IOU book, about two weeks before we left, one of the guys managed to get hold of it somehow and burnt it - sad eh. :cry:

BT. :D
 
#20
When the choggie asked for help unloading his stores from his van you know the beer, every 6th crate sought of disappeared into thin air he never worked it out, he will still be scratching his head now, they robbed us blind.

Ringmain
 

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