Deserted Military Hospital as troops queue for NHS

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  1. Seems the media(even the News of the World) are all picking up the concerns of ARRSE at the moment..

    DESERTED

    THIS is the shocking proof that a state-of-the-art military hospital stands deserted but ready for action while wounded troops are abandoned to queue for treatment on the NHS.

    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news4.shtml
     
  2. Its all very well having 2 wards that can be "bought into use within hours". The Army has thousands of pieces of Clansman kit that could be bought into use with hours, but if you've got no one to man it, its useless too you.

    The more pertinent point is that the Defence Medical Services have been almost cost saved out of existence in comparison to the days when they could resource Military Hospitals.

    Its a nice thought, and there can be no arguement that purely military wards are necessary, but where are the doctors and nurses coming from? And lets hope the Phillippines isnt the answer.
     
  3. There are plenty of nurses looking for work, many are being threatened with redundancy at the moment.
     
  4. That i understand, my mother is a nurse who has spent the best part of 30 years dodging one set of redundancies after another.

    What the good General said is that Soldiers want to be treated in hospital with other soldiers and nurses in uniform. A great idea, and i agree fully, but where are the military nurses and doctors coming from?

    We need effective armoured vehicles for Iraq and Afghanistan, we need more helicoptors, we need another couple of Battle Groups on the ground in Helmand, the Navy need new Carriers, we havent got enough dentists. The lists go on and on, a tap on Gordon Browns door to ask whether we're ever likely to see purely Military hospital wards might be prudent before you mention it to the national press.
     
  5. That goes to show how little he knows. What the soldiers want is to be given the best treatment for there injuries. A bonus would be in a military environment.
    2 wards will not be able to deal with the variety of injuries and illnesses. I wouldnt want some loony sat next to me if I had a head injury. Get away from all this hysteria. You think they will have specialists for all medical disciplines sat waiting for the small number of injuries that will come in. Get real.
    Not everyone comes back with gun shot wounds.
     
  6. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    Obviously not OT Thief - you were obviously born with PTSD.

    If you actually read the article you will note that there are no quotes by General Sir Richard, and that the article claims that he said what he did in support of the NOTW. I don't think so.

    You say that you would not want some loony beside you - taking your comments from this and previous posts - that person would be considered completely sane by the rest of the world compared to you. How can you live with yoursel;f if you don't like 'loonies'?
     
  7. We have two military wards that can be brought into operation within hours, but we aint going to open those wards despite the numbers of injured coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Oh no....instead we will shove you onto a NHS ward where the other patients visitors can threaten and abuse you.
    While your being abused, be happy that the goverment is giving thousands of pounds in grants to a university to study.......The history of pockets!!!!
    Army..be the best. But for gods sake, if you get injured dont expect the best!
     
  8. Haslar was built in 1750. It’s a f**king shed. Yes one or two bits are fairly modern but if I’d had bits blown off me I’d prefer the average NHS district general hospital (with irate local Muslims) to Haslar. There is a fairly vociferous bunch of Gosport folk (led by Peter Viggers the local c*ntservative MP) who want the place reopened. This is not because of it’s supposedly “state of the art” facilities (utterly, utterly bo**ocks) would be available to wounded service personnel, but because it was the local cottage hospital which cared for the local inbreeds who can’t be arssed to go to the proper hospitals in Southampton and Portsmouth.
     
  9. Ventress

    Ventress LE Moderator

    If they survive the 13 mile drive of course.
     
  10. Southampton General dose not need an influx of Pikeys thank you very much! :D
     
  11. Right, enought of this bollox-we DO NOT need Gosport people travelling outside of Gosport.

    Do you know how difficult it would be to keep tabs on them all?

    And what if they started breeding?!! 8O 8O 8O
     
  12. Heaven forbid! impliment checkpoints on the M27 up to Soton!!!
     
  13. The irony being - as my wife, a nurse of over 25yrs experience points out - that she (aged 40+) is typical of the main body of NHS nurses.

    The NHS is in such a state that young nurses don't/cannot afford to stay at it; they change career or go private, so most nurses are middle-aged mums who will leave a gaping hole when they retire.

    Interim local stopgaps include mob-handed recruiting of nurses from overseas - Philippinos were flavour of the month in Surrey a little while back. Again, they stay long enough for their CV to look right, and off they go to the private sector.
     
  14. This was in the Independednt on Sunday, on 8 Oct, but never appeared online. It's already on the *Injured Para accosted by angry muslim" thread. If there are other threads dealing with primary and/or secondary medical care for the wounded, please post in them a link to this report.

     
  15. I wonder if Commander Med would like to come on here and comment about this, I’m sure he sits at his desk in Sandhurst dying to say something on this subject, but is too worried about what will happen to his career.
    This happened to me while on IFOR, and I felt like an outcast in a civi hospital.