Des Browne - knows what hes doing. doesnt he?

#1
I am but a young and green siggie

And I don't know everything about the Royal Corps. In fact, there is a lot I can learn. But in the full text of his speech, Des Browne has said he is sending the 12th Signal Regiment out to Afghanistania as part of the current increase of measures. Having nosied about a little, I can't find any mention of a 12th Signal Regiment.
I imagine the infs are going to be a bit p1ssed when they realise that some of the men they were expecting support services from actually only exist in the Minister of Defences head? I shall therefore assume that the good man knows exactly who he means and that I through my lack of knowledge have simply mis-understood.
Any of those more steeped in the law of Jimmy that can shed a light on this for me.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/D...nouncesEnhancedForcePackageForAfghanistan.htm
 
#2
Of course he knows what he's doing he's in charge, you don't think Our Dear Leader would give him such an important job if he didn't he'll have every confidence in his ability to master his brief do you?

Des will be allocating 49 Para to the Stan next week, and about time too
 
#4
armchair_jihad said:
Of course he knows what he's doing he's in charge, you don't think Our Dear Leader would give him such an important job if he didn't he'll have every confidence in his ability to master his brief do you?

Des will be allocating 49 Para to the Stan next week, and about time too
Well he will be the 3rd Def Sec in as many years - but obviously Tony wanted him as first choice ( remember Buff Hoon was employed purely for comedy value ). :compress:
 
#5
Not to start a panic

He actually meant 12 Signal Group !!!

ok just kidding, and no 33, 34 and 35 are not mobilising .... or am I right
 
#7
Don't understand
Is this going to be 12 signals group please put together a regiment based on your regular contingent and your part timers?
How will this all work? OOh ecky thump missus
 
#9
This is the man that got the regimental title wrong of soldiers killed in Basrah!!!!!!!! No he doe not know what is going on.
Just like his muppet side kick, fat Brummy. "We value the massive commitment of the families and will listen to all issues raised" said sidekick at the AFF Conf. Spent 8 minutes chopsing then fecked off, finger on the pulse this lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#10
polar said:
Not to start a panic

He actually meant 12 Signal Group !!!

ok just kidding, and no 33, 34 and 35 are not mobilising .... or am I right
No it is 12 Sig Gp, as they have worked with ARRC before, logical approach. Composite regt to be formed supported by Sqn of CNR.











just to keep the rumour flowing
 
#11
Was chatting in the bar about it last night.

ORBAT is 2 x TN Sqns (each of 3 troops, although only taking 3 Relays and 2 centrals per troop) plus the CNR Sqn. They will be deployed to extend the network after the Taliban move back into the hills and so will be based around the main MSR's.

They are also getting some IR's from 2 Sig Bde, they've already run out of supervisors and relay ops are nearly exhausted.
 
#12
You were chatting in the bar and found all that out?

Who the hell were you drinking with? Des himself (oh no, hold on, he wouldn't know that much).

So what is the basis of this information? Do you often drink with the joint chiefs? Are you in fact Jock Stirrup in pseudonym( cos to be fair if you were called jock stirrup you WOULD change your name)

How reliable is it? and who the hell actually makes up 12 sigs group.

Or am I once again the victim of a hoax which is obvious to everybody else on the site
 
#14
well if 49 para are going surely it will be home in time for bonfire night to pick up tea and medals for all concerned?
 
#17
Des Browne with him in charge there is now one crucial difference between us and the circus
at the circus they dont have a clown in charge
 
#18
We might also have flash gordon in an advisory capacity and superman/batman/spiderman providing casevac.
Last time des browne contacted reality it told him to p1ss off back to his own kind.

Still, at least we know it is 12 signals group, that polar has access to information at a frightening level (ie knows what the defence secretary means before he does), and that we are inevitably doomed to be governed by people who's only qualification to make our laws is that every five years they win a popularity contest. Anybody fancy blowing this popsicle stand and starting a military governed nation on an island somewhere?
 
#19
IT_Rogue said:
Perhaps he meant "12 Signallers"
Des Browne is only the defence secretary as he is loyal to BLiar and not to Gordon Brown, and is seen as a safe but dumb loyalist who will do what he is told! As in common with so many recent defence secretaries he has no military experience or background, and is sometimes totally out of depth when talking about military units or names.
One example, Dougie Henderson who was Minister of the Armed Forces, came to a dinner night hosted by a unit i was with, no names and no pack drill, in the course of his speech he introduced a lame joke, as having been in conversation with a "Staffing Sgt of the General Adjutants Corps" those very words! I might be clueless but may be he was trying to say a 'Staff Sgt of the Adjutant General's Corps'
Any way, we have the "B" or may be the "C" list of ministers right now, Becket as the Foreign Secretary... she has little interest in the wider world, till recently she took her holidays in a caravan.... Jack Straw (though i am not a Labour Supporter) was an excellent foreign secretary in comparison, but he was sacked as he was displaying some independence or even possibly loyalty to Gordon Brown given he is likely to be the next PM!
So it is little wonder you have Defence Secretary who is a simpleton and has little knowledge of the Military..... and what was it 2 weeks ago, he was too busy in his constituancy to come back from Scotland to Westminster to speak in Parliament when another two servicemen had been killed in Afghanistan.. arrogance and disrespect is all Labour has shown to the Armed Forces BLiar has sent to conflicts, and who sadly have lost far too many good men and women.
 
#20
The 12 Sig Gp rumour has been going around for at least 2 or 3 years now, talk to various SNCO's in related regiments about it and see what has been heard. The idea was that they take a squadron from each and turn it into a nice full Regiment (probably 10 men to a TN but that's to be expected) - man power wise it would probably leave just enough for people to sweep the drill hall once a week, and keep the lights turned on. and recruit new bods to cover the inevitable post tour fall out

Based on 34's latest camp though it sounds as if they will actually be deployed as some kind of elite infantry unit to do section attacks all day long between several hills, and spend insane amounts of time in 4R... before actually leaving camp. Insertion will be by means of windsurfing, kayaks, mountain bikes and any local bar.
 

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