denial over scots guards move

#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3965005.stm

Denial over Scots Guards 'move'

The Scots Guards are due in Iraq on Friday

Downing Street has said there are "no plans" for a second Scottish army regiment to be sent to help out US forces near Baghdad.

Speculation had grown that the Scots Guards could take over when the Black Watch returns home for Christmas.

The guards are due to arrive for duty in Basra on Friday.

The deployment had been planned before the Black Watch was ordered north to help out in the so called "triangle of death" in southern Baghdad.

The Scots Guards are seen as the most likely to fill in behind the Black Watch, if British assistance continues to be sought by America.

They are part of a battle group known as the 4th Armoured Brigade - which is made up of 4,000 soldiers.

End of tour

About 1,400 of them have been training for the Iraq deployment in Munster, Germany, whilst another 2,000 have been preparing in Osnabruck.

Nearly 600 troops have been sent from Britain. The deployment started earlier this week, and will be completed on Friday.

As part of the 4th Armoured Brigade, they are taking over from the 1st Mechanised Brigade which has completed a six month tour of duty in the south of Iraq.


Some 850 troops are being redeployed south of Baghdad

Tim Reid, BBC Scotland Westminster reporter, said that a move for the Scots Guards on towards Baghdad was feasible.

He said "The Scots Guards could take over in the US sector south of Baghdad, when the Black Watch returns home before Christmas.

"Although army sources describe that move as speculation, the regiment is seen as the most likely to fill in behind the Black Watch, if British assistance continues to be sought by the Americans."

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defence has dismissed as "untrue" speculation that a further Scottish regiment - the Royal Scots - could fill in behind the Scots Guards and the Black Watch.

Army sources have told the BBC that the Royal Scots are light-role infantry who are more used to driving small vehicles and doing foot manoeuvres, and not wearing heavy armour and driving tanks.
 
#2
I notice that the MOD and the government have left themselves a ratrun from which to escpae. They have only stated that a scottish regiment will not be deployed to Iraq. That leaves it open for a regiment from wales or england to move in country without the great leader (and his henchmen hoon and straw) being proevn to have lied.

squirming greaseballs the lot of them!!! :twisted:
 
#3
growler said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3965005.stm ....Army sources have told the BBC that the Royal Scots are light-role infantry who are more used to driving small vehicles and doing foot manoeuvres, and not wearing heavy armour and driving tanks.
Ah, so that is what 'light role' means.

"Foot manoevres" - I suppose that is why The Royal Scots are known as the First of Foot.
 
#4
eery coincidence, after the above post.

full report at http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1252632004

Royal Scots on alert for mission to Iraq

Threatened regiment ‘ready to be deployed within ten days’

THE Royal Scots are to be put on ten days’ notice to go to Iraq, their commanding officer said today.

The Edinburgh-based regiment, whose future is under threat in the shake-up of the Army in Scotland, have begun training for a higher state of readiness.

Lieutenant Colonel George Lowder said that, from January 3, the soldiers would be ready to be deployed to Iraq within ten days.
 
#5
more from same article
The Royal Scots, however, are not expected to be deployed until early in the New Year, which Lt Col Lowder said would help boost morale.

"This reprogramming of our readiness and availability means we might get the first Christmas not on operations for five years," he said.

"If we were to deploy just shortly after New Year to support the elections that would be good for us. For married men getting Christmas at home would be great - and getting New Year as well would be a bonus."

Another regiment, the Highlanders, which is currently training in Germany, is likely to follow suit, being deployed to Iraq early next year.
 
#6
hackle said:
["Foot manoevres" - I suppose that is why The Royal Scots are known as the First of Foot.
Hackle, they've got so many Fijians they're now known as "The Large of Foot". Unbeatable rugby team, though. :lol:
 
#7
growler said:
Downing Street has said there are "no plans" for a second Scottish army regiment to be sent to help out US forces near Baghdad.
Yes...there's no Scottish Regt going, only the Scots Guards! :D :lol:

Ha..ha.. :D .it's cos they're all English...ha 8O ha....hmmm.. :oops: I was trying to be funny. Oh well never mind. :(

PD :wink:
 
#9
growler said:
Army sources have told the BBC that the Royal Scots are light-role infantry who are more used to driving small vehicles and doing foot manoeuvres, and not wearing heavy armour and driving tanks.
But were we not told, at the defence review, that the modern army no longer has the need for heavy armour, and that light forces were the future.

It's strange, that since that statement, we've needed to deploy, er, armoured infantry.

It is time to review the decision to de-armour 4 brigade, and de-mech 19 to light?
 
#10
Cyberhacker said:
growler said:
Army sources have told the BBC that the Royal Scots are light-role infantry who are more used to driving small vehicles and doing foot manoeuvres, and not wearing heavy armour and driving tanks.
But were we not told, at the defence review, that the modern army no longer has the need for heavy armour, and that light forces were the future.

It's strange, that since that statement, we've needed to deploy, er, armoured infantry.

It is time to review the decision to de-armour 4 brigade, and de-mech 19 to light?
It's madness isn't it.

We needed armoured or mech inf in Gulf 1, Bosnia, Kosovo, Telic.

Gong back to cycle troops may be the way forward, leaving tyres soft to reduce the risk of mine strike.
 
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